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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A typical vacation not at a relatives house not camping costs about $1000/day. You could budget and get by with $3700 for a week. That’s going somewhere like Disney or cruise — MC vacation. [/quote]

Maybe in your universe. If you fly, stay at expensive hotels and eat out 3 meals a day plus do only paid activities.[/quote]
[b]I can tell you haven’t been on vacation lately. I’m not talking about driving to the beach.[/b] But you do you. [/quote]

DRIVING TO THE BEACH IS A MIDDLE CLASS VACATION.

Flying to a more exotic locale, and eating out for most lunches/dinners, is a UMC vacation.

Spending 1k a DAY for vacation is ridiculous.  2 summers ago we went to Switzerland for a week- we did not have miles/ CC points for the flights, so the flights for our family of 4 were 3.5k.  Then we spent about another 1.5k on lodging for the week.  We ate cheaply, and did mostly hiking/ outdoors type activities that did not have a high price point.  We still kept total costs to under 6k.  So that's under 1k a day for a European vacation to an expensive country, including airfare costs that were not offset by anything.  [/quote]

I don't think you have established what you were trying to.

First, you say that "Spending 1k a DAY for vacation is ridiculous."

OK, that's a perfectly valid viewpoint (though it's obvious that you don't ski . . . but I digress.)

But then you say you went to Switzerland for a week, and air fare and lodging were $5000.  You claim to have spend less that $1000 for the entire rest of the trip - $143 each day, for a family of four, including food, activities, transportation, etc.  Assuming I believe you, and I'm not sure I do, you admit that you "ate cheaply, and did mostly hiking/ outdoors type activities that did not have a high price point." Great.  But it is entirely reasonable to go to Switzerland and *not* want to do it on the cheap.  You were close to $1000 a day anyway - Spending an extra $150 a day gets you there.  Heck, a couple of nice dinners for four get you there.

So yes, you can go to Europe for cheap.  But (i) you didn't do that, and (ii) you were close to $1000/day as it is.  It's not at all ridiculous.  [/quote]

It's actually exactly my point.  Flying a family of 4 to switzerland for a week is not, in my mind (or any reasonable person's), a middle class vacation.  But yet, I managed to do it on less than 1k a day, which apparently is a benchmark for a normal cost of a middle class vacation.  My entire point was that 1k a day is RIDICULOUS for a MIDDLE CLASS VACATION.  Obviously you can go to Switzerland and spend way more than I did and have it NOT BE A MIDDLE CLASS VACATION. The point is not "how much money do I spend on vacations?" the point is "a 1k a day vacation is not middle class spending".  [/quote]

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