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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think there might be just one poster here who keeps adamantly insisting that every woman’s alcohol processing is different and so drinking any amount of alcohol is unsafe. I’m just not buying it. I think by this time in life, you’d know if you’re someone super unique and special who gets absolutely hammered from one glass of wine over dinner. And I’ve yet to see any evidence that some placentas just like suck all the minute amounts of alcohol in your blood stream tricking in over the course of an hour or two and manage to inject it straight into the fetus. Show me the proof of these outlier women and placentas. Show me the proof that some woman drank a couple glasses of wine during her pregnancy and her baby got a FASD. Otherwise, you just seem like a crazy person on a fervent mission to get everyone to believe your assertions that have zero basis in reality. And I say that as someone who didn’t have any alcohol during her pregnancies. 
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Not sure why you find it so hard to believe that multiple women think drinking during pregnancy is a terrible idea. Most of us have the self control and love for our child enough to quit the booze for 9 months. [/quote]

Again, I didn’t drink during my pregnancies. But I don’t view women that have a glass of wine with dinner every now and the. As having a lack of self-control or love for their child. What they do have is a working brain, self-autonomy, and the ability to weigh relative risks and benefits. Again, show me a case where a child has a FASD because their mom has a glass of wine with dinner here and there.

The fact that you think that it is quite risky to have a glass of wine here and there during pregnancy is just your personal opinion and is not supported by evidence.  Someone else might think a mom’s decision was super risky to be pregnant and (a) live in the city near air pollution; (b) be over age 35; (c) eat a bag of chopped lettuce; (d) eat a cup of licorice candy; or (e) go outside during flu season.  I view all of those things as riskier than a glass of wine because of actual evidence linking those things to complications and health problems. It’s a personal risk calculus based on always evolving scientific evidence. It’s arrogant and narrow minded to assume you are right based on zero scientific evidence and morally superior. I would imagine your narrow minded view of the world, lack of critical thinking skills, and judgmental attitude is far more toxic to your child than a glass of wine could have ever been. [/quote]
FASDs caused by alcohol exposure are permanent life-long neurodevelopmental, cognitive and behavioral conditions, not vague "health problems" cause by...licorice candy. :?:

But anyway... Moving on since you seem to be having a very bad day.[/quote]

Not having a bad day at all. Just always impressed at how many narrow minded women there are out there trying to shame and police other women. Also, the problems caused by licorice candy are early puberty, lower IQ, and behavioral issues. No one is arguing that the problems caused by FASD aren’t real and devastating. Some of us are just logical and broad minded enough to distinguish between different types of drinking and have a worldview that isn’t black and white, moralistic, fear-based, and misogynistic.  The problems caused by a glass of wine here and there are totally unproven and seemingly non-existent.

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Loving wine doesn’t make you broad minded or logical.

And stop with the fear-based, misogynistic nonsense. I’ve stated several times in this thread that I am pro, PRO PRO choice, staunch supporter of equal pay for women, bust the patriarchy kind of woman. Crack open a bottle of champagne in the delivery room and get straight back to your self care routine, because nine months of pregnancy is hard AF. Just please don’t think that just because you aren’t affected by a glass of wine “here and there” that your baby tolerates alcohol the same way. [/quote]

As I’ve said multiple times, I didn’t drink during any of my pregnancies. Didn’t even drink during breastfeeding. I’m allergic to beer and wine and never drink it. Don’t even like the taste. This debate is not about loving wine, self-control, or loving fetuses at all. I don’t judge women that have a drink here and there during pregnancy for the reasons explained above.

Part of being pro women and pro choice is respecting a woman’s ability to make decisions for herself and about her own body. You don’t fit that criteria. Your view is that you are right despite a lack of evidence and all women that come to another conclusion are wine-loving lushes who don’t have self-control or lack love for their children and should be badgered and shamed for daring to have a different opinion and make responsible decisions about their own bodies. You are a part of the problem. [/quote]

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