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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Ah. RDN. Those lovely ghouls who helped convince us all that dietary fat was the devil, that satiating butter, animal fat and egg yolks were worse for us than anything, that if we put butter on vegetables we might just as well not eat them. The period in which that was the advice coincided with America’s astonishing weight gain. Hmm.[/quote]

No honey. Do you need a refresher course on the difference between "source" and "messenger"?  Or maybe an RD hurt your family dog as a child, or something?

The scapegoat you're looking for is the USDA at the behest of elected officials from Midwestern farm states where commodity crops are grown.  
https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga95/12DIETAP.HTM

How the Ideology of Low Fat Conquered America 
Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied Sciences, Volume 63, Issue 2, April 2008, 
https://academic.oup.com/jhmas/article/63/2/139/772615

In relevant part:
[b][u]"[t]he low-fat diet for weight reduction was already well in place before physicians and scientists began promoting it for cardiovascular health in the 1950s[/u][/b]. The low-fat diet was part of our dieting tradition before the ideology of low fat conquered America."

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Struck a nerve, did I? Your sources confirm what I said.  :lol: [/quote]

The cited works contradict what you claimed, that dieticians were the root cause of the low-fat diet advice.  Contradict is different than confirm.  Enjoy your atherosclerosis, though!

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You can’t read, you hypersensitive RDN! I said “Those lovely ghouls who helped convince us all that dietary fat was the devil” Did or did not dieticians convey the low fat dogma to patients? I didn’t say the invented it (thanks, Ancel!), I said they helped convince us.

Also, why assume I’m developing atherosclerosis? Or wish it on someone? I’m confused what kind of angry defensive medical professional with a god complex might suggest that the dietary advice of an RDN is not infallible and in fact helped perpetrate the National obesity crisis.[/quote]

Ok then, why do you focus blame on the messengers of the low-fat recommendations — the RDs — rather than the federal policymakers and scientists who actually developed the policy in the first place?

I'm not an RD, just someone who finds your overwrought and misguided bitterness a little odd.
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NP but it read to me like that poster was saying why should we trust what the dietician in this thread is saying THIS time when in the past they have spread bad science that helped increase the obesity epidemic?[/quote]

[b]Dietitians aren’t to blame then or now for obesity. [/b] And many people that struggle with weight don’t do so because they lack the knowledge of what makes a healthy balanced diet, they struggle because food is their drug.  They are addicted and cannot break the cycle because they emotionally rely on the comfort and feelings they get from it.    And unlike drugs and alcohol, you can’t quit food.  It is always there and you will always need to eat- which makes breaking that addiction ever so much harder.   [/quote]
They are, not in whole, but they’re the ones who communicated the dogma to us. They’re the ones who created the diets for patients. Immediately you jump to insulting every fat person, that all of them are pathetic food addicted losers - no, people can’t stop eating. There is no cold turkey for food.

I don’t recall reading or hearing about a lot of food addicted people before the 1990s when the low fat dogma deeply destabilized the diets of millions. Suddenly, the macronutrient that creates satiety without affecting blood sugar was off the table - don’t eat meat (too much saturated fat!), don’t eat avocados (too much fat!), don’t dress your veggies with butter (unhealthy at any amount! Too much fat!), don’t eat nuts (ahhhh! so much fat!), etc.

And here comes the smug RDN on this thread, acting like she has some hotline to god when your ilk is as much to blame for the fat epidemic as anyone. You pushed the message. In school meals, in school programs, in youth programs, on tv shows, county extension services, creating meal plans for post-surgical and post-diagnostic patients.... look around at all the pretty fat people and know that your field helped make them. Because there were people with genetic vulnerabilities and demonizing fat - with fairly shoddy evidence, frankly - put a match to their kindling.

So yeah. I’m annoyed with people who pretend to know but don’t admit what their field did.[/quote]

It sounds like you need therapy. Did you go see an RD at some point for help losing weight and it didn't work out for you?[/quote]
Not the PP, but you sound patronizing.[/quote]

DP. And ignorant. Prior PP was on point re dieticians.[/quote]

No kidding. I want to go back to the 80s and punch the Snackwells cookie man in the face.[/quote]

That's how I feel today about the Keto, Atkins, and low-carb dumbass fads. Sorry, but the apple and sweet potato did not make you fat. [/quote]

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