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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]DCUM needs to upgrade its trolls. Or upgrade its atheists[/b]. [/quote]

??  That's not really helpful.   O.k., Jesus probably did live, but the Jesus myth was largely created by Paul.  He became a convert when he was on the road to Damascus and had a "vision" in which he heard Jesus speak to him.  No one else was there so we are expected to accept Paul's word for this.  Of course if that happened today, the person might well be committed to a mental hospital.  That assumes he didn't just make the whole thing up for his own purposes.  He then wrote about the stories that had been floating around via oral traditions.  Some of it may be true, some very unlikely - but the point is that none of it can be confirmed nor documented and Paul's writing is really advocacy for a point of view.  If you believe, that's fine but there's no basis for believing any of it is truth.  [/quote]

There’s no reason for believing Paul made it up for the bizarre personal motives you’re giving him, either. In fact, between Paul and your weird conspiracy theories and allusions to mental hospitals, [b]most people would probably choose Paul[/b].[/quote]

Based on what?  Who said "bizarre" personal motives? What weird conspiracy theories? As you know Paul was a rival to Peter and started his own churches that were often at odds theologically with Peter.  I don't know what motivated him.  I'm pretty sure that anyone who claims Jesus spoke to them must be regarded with bit of skepticism. [/quote]

So now you’re half-claiming (because even you know this doesn’t pass the smell test) that Paul made up Jesus’ appearance to him because he (Paul) wanted to get up Peter’s nose. Whether you’re an atheist or the Jew who took a class or two on Christianity at Rabbinical school in NYC, you really need to get a grip. This doesn’t reflect well on you. [/quote]

No, I'm saying it is impossible to believe Jesus appeared to Paul. Period.  I have no idea what his motives were for making up that story.[/quote]

And yet you keep alluding to possible motives (Peter) or suggesting sheer insanity (mental hospital, epilepsy, schizophrenia). Be honest here.

In any case, it’s impossible for YOU to believe. Which is fine. You do you. But obviously millions of others DO believe. What I’m becoming curious about is, when there are millions of believers out there, why do you make in your mission, 24/7, to try to pick off DCUM believers one poster at a time? You’ve failed miserably today (as evidenced by your descent into stupid ad homonyms).  I don’t see anybody (besides the atheist buddy) chiming in with, “wow, you’re right!” either. Can’t you see how futile your mission is, whether paid or self-annointed?[/quote]

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