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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Couple of points. First what is troubling is Miller designing a policy that he believes will result in putting other Americans in harms way.   That is the mindset of a sociopath not a public servant. Also troubling if the recent firings at DHS (where civil servants pushed back against Miller) is related.

Second I don’t think it is fair or accurate to equate sanctuary cities with an open border policy. Just about every mainstream Democratic politician I know of and all the Democrats I know want strong borders and want to reduce illegal immigration. There is broad based support for more and better border security.

The key differences are that Democrats largely support :

More high tech solutions 
More immigration judges to speed up processing (and deportations )
An immigration policy that is race and religion neutral 
A more generous cap on the number of refugees admitted 
A humane approach to dealing with the asylum seekers (who are here legally btw) and illegal immigrants   So try to keep children with family members and keep good records so that we are able to reunite separated family members 
Work on push factors by working with Central Americans countries to reduce crime and gang violence 
Expect businesses to verify the immigration status of their workers 
Institute a temporary work permit program for the agriculture sector 
Don’t punish people who are here illegally through no fault of their own (the Dreamers)
Find a way to bring people who have been here for a long time out of the shadows. This is a tough sell because you don’t want to create an incentive for more people to come but you also don’t want a large group of productive people to become a permanent underclass

The last point I will make is that a sanctuary city is a policy approach designed to minimize risks to the broader community. If you have a large number of undocumented immigrants in your community you don’t want them to be afraid to come forward to report crimes or cooperate with law enforcement or public health officials because they are afraid of getting deported. ICE has the responsibility for enforcement of immigration laws. Our local police, public health workers, teachers and social workers won’t be able to do their job if they are forced to report to ICE. 
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First, so you do think allowing illegal immigrants into sanctuary cities puts people in harm's way. 
Second, if you want strong borders then why don't you want law enforcement working togethr to enforce the laws. Illegal immigrants need to go through the process. You are saying if they get in, then that's fine. 
More high tech solutions and less low tech - Does less low tech allow for border barriers/fences/walls? 
We have a race and religion neutral policy. Just not a terrorist nation neutral policy. 
More judges - agreed. But you need an infrastructure, hiring and training process to ramp up. How long will this take and what to do in the interim? 
The U.S. has been paying central american countries million$$ over the years and the problem is far worse and not better. Attempt to get more involved and the U.S is colonizing, stay out of it and the corrupt governments keep the money and the problem worsens. 
The U.S. already has agricultural visas for those willing. 
Dreamers = amnesty. It's been tried and doesn't work. It only encourages a greater influx of illegal immigrants. 
Your point about coming out of the shadows is a good one but not good politically. The real solution for most illegal immigrants is to have a social works program at low wages allowing for green card status and eventual citizenship. It's a slower form of amnesty but libs scream about how this is unfair and a form of slavery. U.S history is filled with immigration waves where this policy was instituted. Would it work now?

If teachers, police and others don't realize illegal immigration breaks our system of public services, they aren't paying attention. It's all good until a legal green card holder or citizen needs public services and they can't get them due to the strain of more than 8 million illegal immigrants abusing the system.

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