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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]
Do we want to win elections without compromising our core values? What is wrong with being a Bill Clinton type of Democrat? Was Clinton not enough of a liberal for you?[/quote]

Bill Clinton was exactly the compromise of our core values that I detest. I proudly have never voted for any Clinton.

You clearly share Republican values and spend your time attacking Democrats. It is okay to admit your true allegiance. There are plenty of Republicans here.
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Are you a democratic socialist[/quote]

I am not a member of the DSA if that is what you mean. I support many policies that are common in social democracies such as universal healthcare and affordable higher education. FDR was generally called a socialist and many of his programs were socialist in nature. So, I don't really see anything wrong with democratic socialism.
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Democratic socialism is fundamentally incompatible with our Constitution. Specifically, it's against private property and liberty.

At the end of the day, an individual is an individual. If people don't want to participate in your utopia, STOP FORCING THEM. All the "democratic socialist" programs you support FORCE those who don't want to participate to do so against their will. From mandatory union dues to FICA to high taxes for whatever you want and anything in-between.

Adhere to the Constitution, the supreme law of the land.  Not some vision where words are twisted into pretzels so you can distribute free stuff. That's all I ask.  1+1 really does equal 2.[/quote]

Democratic socialism is absolutely not opposed to private property and liberty. You are wildly uniformed. Do you think that Scandinavia or most of Western Europe lack private property or liberty? Trumpsters talk about East coast liberals living in a bubble, but what kind of a bubble must you live in to believe things like this PP?

I assume that you drive to work on a public road? Why are you using that socialist infrastructure instead of paying a toll to take a privately owned road?

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"Democratic Socialism" is not about building roads. It's about stuff like "universal basic income", "free health care", "free education" and everything else under the sun that you want, so you call it a "basic human right". To pay for it, you just decide you'll tax at a progressive rate and you'll institute a "death tax" because it's for "the greater good".

"Democratic Socialism" is also about instilling decision makers for central planning in federal departments that cannot be replaced, so no matter WHO is "democratically" elected, your agenda of the redistribution of income for "the greater good" goes forward. It's about a Utopian vision of cradle to grave benefits of anything you want.... and if a few eggs need to be broken to get there, so be it.

It's iron-fisted top-down rule of the economy an d the political and social narrative, so that there are equal outcomes, not equal opportunity.

[b]You go read the ten point of the communist manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels) from 1848 and THAT is the agenda of today's democrat party, word for word.[/b]

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You were doing pretty good until you got to the bolded. Then you revealed yourself as just another lunatic.
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There you go. Now, you look at all those points below and tell me that's not exactly what the DNC and the DSA both want. This is EXACTLY what they have been working towards for the past 100 years.

This will be good.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work.  Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
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