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And I'm sure your son and his friends didn't ever stay up late studying once at TJ either.  It all was natural  :roll: I believe kids at TJ take summer school to be able to do things like band.  Also, if the kids who have tutors don't hold your natural genius back, why are you so focused on them?  To each his own.  If they are willing to study their butts off outside of school to keep up, why don't they belong there?  As far as I'm concerned as long as you keep up, you belong there.  When did the American attitude become that hard work and drive is a negative thing to be frowned on?  I always thought Americans prided themselves on the fact that in our country with hard work and dedication you can become anything you want.  [/quote]

But they DON'Tkeep up once they get there-- at least not at a level that satisfies their parents.   If you are a TJ parent, you know that number one item on the school improvement plan is cheating.  And that [b]for the first 3/4 of the year, there were 90 academic integrity violations-- on place to have 1 kid in every 10 caught cheating.  And that is just the kids where cheating was caught and could be substantiated. My DC says 98% of the kids he is aware of with academic integerity violations are Asian, [/b]including the massive sophomore class cheating ring that was broken up this year.

So, either these kids can't keep up without cheating, or they can't get the grades their parents expect without cheating.  Are you okay with the fact that TJ is admitting kids who apparently need to cheat to manage at TJ?  I'm not, They are talking about increased punishments. I hope they crack down hard. Like first strike you get a zero on the assignment.  Second strike you funk the class, third strike, you are returned to the base school. It's ridiculous that kids who follow the rules on academic integrity end up at a disadvantage, because so many kids get test questions from peers who take the test earlier, siblings who attends, older TJ students who attend, or kids who sneak out their phone and take a picture of the test during class.

Maybe kids who don't need to prep for admissions will be able to actually do the work without cheating. [/quote]

Could you direct me to where you found the information about cheating incidents? Of course the school wants to hide that cheating goes on, but as a parent there I've been trying to find concrete data on it for years.[/quote]

Are you puling these stats out of your *ss?  If not, please provide a link.  hard to believe that a school (any school) keep tracks of each violation AS WELL as the ethnicity of the violators.  My kid is a freshman and he's not heard nor seen any incidents of cheating. [/quote]

DP. PP is not pulling these randomly, they were provided to parents every quarter during SY 16-17 (but not this year) as part of the school improvement plan. And the numbers look right.  But good luck finding them on the new and “improved” website.  It was approaching 100 cases during the end of Q3 that school year.  BUT— that is all academic integrity violations, and not broken down by category, so the data is not that useful.  Kids get academic integrity referrals for relatively minor things, like being overhead saying a test was “very hard,” with no other specifics or that it had extra credit, or for forgetting to cite a source in a paper with 20 different sources, but clearly not taking credit for the work themselves— all of which are violations, but minor ones. Or, it could be kids who share exact problems from tests with friends, or even try to use an iPhone to take a photo of a test page when a teacher isn’t paying attention. Those are obviously major violations. So just knowing there were 90?  Not that useful. [/quote]

That's clearer.  As a freshman parent, I have not received anything on this topic.  What pisses me off are the "fact-like" lies that some people share and that takes a life of its own...see the items I highlighted before..[/quote]

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