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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How are non-TJ parents so definitively claiming there is a culture of cheating at TJ unlike any other high school.

Do you not know that you don't sound credible but sound like you simply have a chip on your shoulder?[/quote]

Sounds like a case of sour grapes who can't let go their obsession for TJ  and move on with their life![/quote]

It's sour grapes soaked in vinegar because (1) they didn't get in and (2) it's mostly asian.  [/quote]

Can't speak for everyone, but I have a friend who has a child there and she commented that they send a LOT of emails about cheating.  She was surprised by the volume on this issue.  [/quote]

Is that some secret e-mail list that other parents (like myself) are not allowed to be on?[/quote]

Yeah, I'd like to know too. DD is a freshman, and I don't remember receiving communication about cheating.[/quote]

I have a kid in class of 2020 there were at least a couple significant cheating issues his freshman year—one involving the sophomore class and one involving neurobio, and there was communication about it to parents under Glazer.

This year, I’ve seen zip in the official communications. I think part of it is that the path department made some significant changes— and that is where a lot of the problems were occurring.  For Math 4/5 this year, the division wrote the tests, and there were like 6 different versions of each test, so kids could not easily share specific problems.  I believe some the sciences were similar.  Humanities classes are harder to,cheat because they are so project and essay based. There was also a lot less griping about cheating on TJ vents. So, I’m hopeful they are making strides on this.

But, I also think the new principal has had her hands full with the kid s hating her, the parents being passed off, being legitimately left some messes by Glazer, Andrew being told by the accreditation board that security procedures for the new school must take top priority.  So I think cheating also got backburnered this year.

I wish TJ would 3 strikes cheating: strike one, zero one the assignment or drop a letter grade in the class, whichever is lower.  Strike 2, F in the class. Strike 3, back to base school.  Same punishments for kids who help cheat as kids who benefit.  But I’m a hardass. I’ve have told my kid clearly that I did not raise a cheater, and I would rather see the lower grade than the cheating. And that the very first honor code referral will result in his immediate removal to his base school.  Lots of his peers parents feel the same way.

I do think it’s a minority who cheat. That often, they are the kids whose parents have unrealistic expectations. And that (flame away, I know this will piss people off) there are a lot of 1st gen Asian kid s at TJ, and in some of these cultures, for some of these kids (NOT ALL, NOT A MINORITY) you do what you need to do to get a leg up, because academic resources are scare in their culture, and the parents don’t really understand why cheating is all that bad. So the pressure is on the kid to succeed, even if it means cheating. And parents even facilitate, by, for example, gathering older siblings or friends older children’s tests and passing them down.

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