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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's the same conversation. If the reason we care so much about walkability is actually moving kids off buses for health or environmental or even financial reasons, you can't ignore whether the number of students, whether percentage or absolute, make it a good choice for an option vs. neighborhood school if they are not choosing to walk to that school now. [/quote]

This conversation didn't start off as one about how much weight should be given to walkability or whether students who transfer should be counted, it was about whether we should calculate walkability on a percentage basis or an absolute basis. A pp asserted that percentage basis was the wrong way to look at it because it favored smaller schools and thus misrepresented true walkability, and that's what the data was presented to refute. You are now hijacking it as a strawman to make a different point.[/quote]

Some of you are missing the real origin of this. The whole "percentages aren't a good way to look at it because it doesn't account for school size" argument did not arise because of anything having to do with Randolph or other high transfer rate schools, it was developed to target Nottingham, as a way of saying that Nottingham's 82% walkable calculation was misleading because Nottingham is a smaller school with fewer absolute walkers than, say, Oakridge (which is the school one or two posters kept using as the comparison point, even though the two schools are basically irrelevant to each other for purposes of this analysis). What the charts above show is that despite the school being smaller than many others, is still a highly walkable school by any measure, and is more walkable than any other NW school other than Reed (on an absolute basis; not percentage).

Whether Randolph should be protected as a neighborhood school based on its potential for walkability is a different question that has nothing to do with the data charts shared here.[/quote]

Question about the 82% walkable number for Nottingham: the APS Go survey only shows 38% identifying as walkers, it looks like the other half of the walkable population is riding in cars. Is that because of before and aftercare or because the walkers just don't want to walk?

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Nottingham_v2.pdf[/quote]

First, there are two different methodologies used in that study, giving different results for the % who actually walk. You can't ignore one just because the other is more favorable, both have their pros and cons as measures of actual walk rates.

Second, you see the same pattern among walkers at all elementary schools. If you want to convince me that Nottingham is an outlier in this regard, you need to show me actual comparative data.[/quote]

Ok, so the data set from kids identifying how they came to school is saying 38% walking. I believe this is the more accurate number because it was done at school and does not have a selection bias like the parent survey. The parent survey says 53% walk to school and 56% walk home. This is based just on the parents who answered the survey, so the accuracy of the number is questionable.

The point is, both numbers are far below 82%, so what's going on there? Convenience? Aftercare?

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