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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Agree! We still have evidence on this thread of the very behavior we are talking about.....the propensity of progressive liberals to explain away very obvious antisemtitism - and who actually get angry at the Jews who are rightly pointing out that any bigotry toward  Jewish people is completely unacceptable. [/quote]

I don't agree that there is obvious anti-Semitism on White's part. Even you are unable to point to obvious anti-Semitism. He didn't know the Rothschilds are Jewish and was spreading his nutty conspiracy theory out of ignorance, not anti-Semitism. He left the tour group because of the reporter and the subsequent article by that reporter demonstrated that White's instincts were correct. This is not "explaining away very obvious anti-Semitism", but simply pointing out that there wasn't obvious anti-Semitism. I can't explain away something that wasn't there in the first place.

Don't you understand the harm that you are doing by describing someone as being an obvious anti-Semite when he is no such thing? Don't you see how that sort of unfair treatment could generate a backlash? How would you react to being publicly described as a racist? Would that make you more or less understanding of people of color?
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And here we have what I was talking about. Me, the Jew, is causing harm by objecting to White's repeated display of antisemitisim toward Jews. How DARE I describe White as an antisemite? How DARE I take offense that a man, who already had it pointed out to him that his Rothschild conspiracy theory was antisemitic then compound it and walk out on the Holocaust tour? You defend the Democrat who makes repeated shows of negativity toward Jews, and attack the Jew upset with it. (And as you know, I'm not the only one on this thread who has expressed concern with rising antisemtitsm on the left.)

And why are you switching it around as to whether this makes me more understanding of POC? What is it up to ME to be understanding of a black man who repeatedly shows blatant disregard to Jews? Why do you not ask for black people to understand the Jewish point in all this, since it was "one of their own" who advanced an antisemtitic theory and demonstrated a WGAF attitude toward the Holocaust?

Reminds me of that old song.....Protestants blame the Catholics, Catholics blame the Lutherans, Lutherans blame the Mormons, and everyone blames the Jews.[/quote]

When there is conflict, you can work toward reconciliation or you can work toward further conflict. Is is pretty clear that your interest is in increased conflict. Given that you are proudly conservative, it is understandable that you have an interest in furthering divisions between the black and Jewish communities. I'm sure that if such a rift drove Jews toward the Republican Party, you would consider that a tremendous victory.

It is really sad that you would exploit something as horrible as anti-Semitism to achieve your partisan goal. Yes, it is terrible, it is terrible that you as a Jew, accuse someone of being a blatant anti-Semite where he is no such thing. Unlike you, the JUFJ is interested is reconciliation rather than conflict. But, because of your extreme partisanship, you disregard them, despite the fact that they have much greater knowledge of the situation than you.

Again, if someone accused you of blatant racism, would that make you more or less friendly towards people of color? That question does not involve White. It is a simple question. If you faced unfair allegations of that type, how would you react? Can you honestly say that would make you more emphatic towards people of color?
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Wow. Your disdain for Jews who refuse to "be understanding" about prejudice toward Jews is coming through loud and clear. All of a sudden I'm the one who is driving division between Jews and blacks? Because I am taking a strong position against liberal DC politicians who either demonstrate antisemitic attitudes or are willing to accept them? You hate me, being a Jew who stands up against expressions of antisemtitsm. more than you do the bigoted politician who is advancing them! And why? Because he is a liberal and I am a conservative.

And look how you switched it around to attack the Jew, whose only "crime" is not failing on her sword in the face of rising antisemtism: My partisan goal is to creatr division between blacks and Jews.....and how it's not making me more emphatic to POC.....and my extreme partisanship.....blah, blah, blah. All I see from YOU is extreme partisanship, and continued efforts to downplay, excuse, and justify antisemitic attitudes when they occur among liberals. You would NEVER act this way if a Christian made repeated anti-Muslim statements and the Muslim objected.! Would you tell the Muslim: "try to be more understanding of the Christians. Why are you trying to stir up conflict"?

I don't expect to get through to you, due to your extreme partisanship and pleasure in attacking me for my political beliefs. I do hope that others will reflect on what Ive written.

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DP if there's prejudice against Jews , the facts on the ground do not support that exaggerated claim .[/quote]
IF there's prejudice against Jews? IF? There's the diminishment of Antisemitism again. "We don't even know for sure if there IS antisemitism." Deny, deny, deny.[/quote]

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