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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm generally pro-affirmative action but wouldn't a policy of affirmative action based on income work to accomplish the same goals AND take the wind out of the sails of the white nationalists?[/quote]

I agree with this theoretically. But the issue is how do you prove someone is from poor socio-economic background. Income can be fudged many ways and wealthy whites/asians will work with their accountants to make themselves "financially look poor" for couple of years before their kids apply. Also does income alone change the social background of blacks? No. Many lower middle income or middle income blacks still live in a majority black neighborhood for family reasons. [/quote]

Therein lies the issue. Everyone is looking for a leg up, no one wants to actually do the work to get ahead. [/quote]

What do you mean by "do the work to get ahead" ? Define that? Asians also top any admission tests and do plenty of "extra-curricular" activities. So are you ok if Asians are over 50% in any top school, because based on any objective measure they sure deserve it.[/quote]
NP. Absolutely. College admissions should be race-blind. [/quote]

[b]But it is not because that is surefire way to create a permanent underclass citizens with blacks, hispanics and white trash. [/b]Asians do well because they come from a very favorable socio-economic background. Once you have that advantage then it matters less which college you get into(an Ivy or Public Ivy). Asians are stuck in a virtuous loop of educated parents make money pass it on to their kids who get top education who make even more money.

But a if black student is denied admission into the top college then its like denying the entire black community for generations after. Blacks are stuck in a negative loop. Blacks don't score well because of social status and are relegated to a a weaker school and the negative loop continues. One or two exceptional student will break this cycle BUT most will not. Is this what you want? Where is upward mobility for blacks? [/quote]

This is some real candor. I think lots of people who support affirmative action believe certain groups like African Americans won't be able to succeed without getting a handout. Other groups can apparently make it on their own, but African Americans cannot.

If you want to help the so-called underclass, that's great! There are tons of ways to do it that don't involve giving kids admission preferences because of the color of their skin. [/quote]

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