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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications.  Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage.   Renos changed rooflines, kept garages.  Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.[/quote]

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.[/quote]

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house. 
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Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.[/quote]

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom. [/quote]

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space. [/quote]

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?[/quote]

The largest bedroom is upstairs and has sloped ceilings. One bedroom on the main level is moderate- 12x11. The other two bedrooms are quite small- basically just enough for a twin bed and dresser.

If you only want a single stairwell between the house and addition, you'll need to add a hallway through the middle of the large upstairs bedroom.

Typically, secondary bedrooms in homes are meant for kids. Particularly in children older homes, they're expecting a twin bed and not much else. That's not the situation for this family, where there will be several adults. That means they'll need more and larger bedrooms. Adults generally don't want to share bathrooms with a bunch of other people, too, which is why I'm not surprised there are a bunch of bathrooms in this. New homes even expecting traditional families tend to have a high bathroom to bedroom ratio.[/quote]

Again, you seem confused. The question is why the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. It’s not like people live in their bedrooms. People spend must of the day in the other parts of a house, not sitting around in their bedrooms.

There are two couples and two children living in this house. There will be six new bathrooms plus two and a half bathrooms in the original section of the house. That’s 8 1/2 bathrooms for four adults and two young children. 
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Your mistaken. When you live in a crowded house, you spend more time on your bedroom. Furthermore, adult bedrooms are typically bigger than children's bedrooms, for a variety of reasons.

We don't know how many bedrooms and bathrooms the house will have after this addition and the associated renovations.

Also, I don't know how many adults will be there. Is Mike the one with kids, or is his sibling moving in with their family? And I think his brother is already living there.[/quote]

The rule is only the immediate family and 2 others can live there. If they have more then its illegal. [/quote]

And Immediate Family in different places mean different things. My house in a neighborhood with strict zoning rules. Immediate Family is the Parents (if on title of house and children) Thats it. From what I see there are the parents who own house right now and the son. Three people who are immediate family.

Now if we are calling immediate family is daughter in laws, son in laws, Grand children, in laws, first cousins, live in BFs or live in GFs, Uncle and Aunts that is crazy.     [/quote]

It does not matter what "immediate" family means in other countries.

In the USA, immediate family means parents and kids only, not inlaws, cousins, aunts or uncles.[/quote]
Actually it doesn't matter how you define "immediate family." What matters is how the county code is written. Which clearly includes relatives by blood and marriage.[/quote]

which is why the codes need to be updated more clearly. My town we had an issue back in 1970s with Grouper homes. We clearly defined what Immediate family is. We have it as Parents if on the home deed and their children, For instance I own a home there. I cant move my Mother in law in with me. She is not immediate family, cant move my brothers and sisters in, if kids married cant move their spouses in. Our town is peacefull, very few teardowns of starter homes or monsters like this.

There is nothing stopped you from having your parents buy a second home nearby. There are lots of them my town as we blocked multgenerational housing 50 years ago. And as a side benefit saved all the starter homes. [/quote]

My point is that the code is clear. It just doesn't say what you want it to say.

The same thing, by the way, applies to the height. This clearly falls under the height limit. You might not agree with the allowances, but they are clear.

Clarity isn't an issue.[/quote]

Guess you are a big Trump
supporter [/quote]

You’ve piqued my interest. I'm sure there's a joke and/or snark there. Please explain.[/quote]

Build anywhere big ugly gaudy oversized things no matter how many people you piss off [/quote]

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