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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I just had a chance to watch this and have a few questions to those who believe it presents facts:

1) do you accept that people of both Jewish and Palestinian descent share common ancestry from the Caanites who lived in the region prior to both the Jewish and Islamic faiths existed? If not, who you think that the ancestors of Palestinians are from”invaders”?

2) if you accept the U.N. designation of Israel’s borders when it was created, why do you not accept the current UN mandated border for the state of Israel. [/quote]

Because that’s what it is to be a Zionist. Arrogantly picking and choosing what suits them.

You can apparently be an atheist who suddenly picks and chooses parts of the Bible you agree with and ignore the rest. And more audaciously, ignoring life before the Bible or religion; that’s some chutzpah from an atheist.

That’s why Maher has always been pathetic and a clown along with the countless other high profile atheists who all seem to be rabid Zionists as well. When people say he mocks all religions, that’s bullsh*t. He specifically mocks only the Jews who follow the Torah and say Israel is not even supposed to be created until the Messiah comes.

People need to really question their own intelligence if they thought this stupid segment sans any actual debate (like every single time he bloviates on this topic) was “fact-based.”[/quote]You are a perfect example of someone who doesn't want peace in Israel/Palestine. People who think like you have rejected peace again and again over the last 50+ years. And it comes from your societal norms. Where is Palestine's Gandhi or MLK? Do you have any peacemakers? [/quote]
NP. Palestinians don’t need to kiss your ass. The nerve of you. Personally, I have no horse in this race, and I wish both Israeli and Palestinians would ride off into the sunset, but the idea that Palestinians owe you peacemaking is bananas. You stole their land and are committing genocide against them. The only they owe you is the same in return. [/quote]The Palestinians could live in a peaceful prosperous nation if only they didn't listen to people like you. There certainly are far right extremists on the Israelis side, just like the far right Arab extremists like you. This is a battle between  far right extremist warmongers. I wish there were actual gen Z on this thread to witness that.[/quote]
You sound like white people who like to tell me, a Black woman, what “The Blacks” need to do better. Kiss my ass and kiss Palestinians’ asses too. When you steal people’s ancestral land, cram them into open-air prisons, and deliberately make life as miserable for them as possible, you deserve however they respond. I have more important concerns
than Israel/Palestine and am not under any illusions that either Israelis or Palestinians GAF about my Black behind, but Zionists really need to stop lying to themselves. You started this fight, perpetuated it, and no one
wants to hear your mouth running. We’re all rooting for the Palestinians to turn the tables on you colonizers.[/quote]

This is a mural that was in Gaza before it was destroyed.

Zionists want to play victim in this occupation based on what white Christians in Europe did to them. They use what Europeans have done to Jews for eons and project it onto Palestinians who had nothing to do with it. Even Netanyahu absolved Hitler and tried to blame Palestinians for the Holocaust. That's how despicable you have to be to defend what Israel does :

[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Rkrx55n2ELzBrq5-Q9r0NKSYr5dcpsQXNQ&s[/img]

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Well, look at that. Palestinian lives matter to my Black self, too, honey. Everyone who isn’t a liar knows that stealing Palestinian land to settle Europe wrongs was an evil deed. Stay strong. It took almost 300 years just to end slavery in America. The road might be long and arduous, but justice prevails. I believe we will see Palestinians back in your rightful place one day. [/quote]

While I agree it was poor planning to plop down a bunch of Jewish people in the middle of Arab nations—and even worse to forcibly displace some—can you agree that all the billions of dollars in aid in support of building a civilized state over the last several decades could have resulted in a successful nation if only religious extremists hadn’t opted to squander the money on terrorism (I mean, the money left over once the leaders hadn’t taken millions off the top for themselves and their families who are living large far from the mess they created)?

If we can both agree that both sides are in the wrong, then maybe there is hope. This shouldn’t be hard unless you have a bias. [/quote]

And your bias is one when you're pull the tiresome  "both sides" nonsense ignoring what has been happening in the West Bank for years. You can bleat about "religious extremism" all you want, but it won't change the fact that it's violent Jewish ones responsible for what has happened in the WB and the Israeli govt encourages it[/quote]

Just to be clear: you simply believe only Israel is at fault and deserves whatever religious extremist terrorists do…always?

And you don’t have any issue with religious extremists who are dedicated to destroying Israel, all Jewish people, America, and the West? (ICYMI: that’s the standard terrorist mantra.)

I just can’t understand how anyone—regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity—can brush past the role of terrorism and religious extremism…particularly Americans.

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This is the sort of dialogue that prompts people to worry that far too many might actually support religious extremism (at least when it comes to a certain religion). Wowza.[/quote]

Your definition of clear appears to be a swamp. Nothing you said resembles what I said.

When you talk about terrorism and start at Hamas or Palestinian in general, then you've already lost credibility. You don't get to arbitrarily ignore what you want to then decide WHEN terrorism started. If you genuinely cared about terrorism, why won't you accept that it was brought to Palestine by Zionist  Jews and that several of their PMs and countless Knesset members were/are literal terrorists? [/quote]

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