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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think this is great. Even if this gets appealed down the line, it is now against the zeitgeist to have legacy admissions. Tide is turning and will turn elsewhere too. [/quote] Now that there have been more diverse admissions for decades, legacy doesn’t carry the weight anymore. Admissions have all the tools to identify connected families, from expensive sports to social networks, that relying on “legacy” isn’t even needed anymore. Read up on how they started promoting athletics when Jewish students started earning admissions on academic achievement. [/quote] Right--wasn't that the era when they looked for the "all around" candidates, meaning they were supposedly not "grinds"? It played on Jewish stereotypes of the era.[/quote] And I cynically think this is another work-around to decrease the number of Jews in the class. So many Ivy donors with legacy applicant kids are Jewish today. This became very apparent in all the pushback against pro-Hamas activism last year. Harvard is said to be aiming for no more than 2% Jewish, in line w American population. [/quote] Yes that is true. Self identifying Jewish students make up 10-24% of undergraduate at Ivies. That is really high vs the population. Bill Ackman has said he want UPenn to be at 35%. [quote] The Jewish Telegraphic Agency, a Jewish news wire service, reported in 1967 that Jewish students had reached high numbers at the Ivies after decades of low enrollments. The news outlet cited a New York Times survey at the time, which found that the student bodies at Columbia University and University of Pennsylvania were 40 percent Jewish. Jewish student populations at Harvard, Yale and Cornell were estimated to be between 20 and 25 percent, while those at Dartmouth, Princeton and Brown hovered between 13 and 20 percent. Jews now make up 9.9 percent of Harvard’s undergraduate enrollment and 12.2 percent at Yale, according to estimates on Hillel’s website. The share of Jewish students at Columbia University is an estimated 22.3 percent. Roughly 8.8 percent of Dartmouth students, and 9.6 percent of Princeton students, are Jewish. Cornell and Brown are the only two Ivies to buck the trend of significant declines compared to the 1960s, with Jewish students making up 21.5 percent and 23.9 percent, respectively, of the enrollment.[/quote] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/2023/05/08/jewish-student-enrollment-down-many-ivies Being Jewish really helps with admissions to Ivy League schools. I imagine legacy and regional preferences(New York and NE) play a part. Also removing presidents at Ivy League schools because they are not pro Israel shows which alumni have influence.[/quote]
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