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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad]That hints at my problem with "club-centric" leagues. Vienna's boys don't need a higher level of competition. Vienna's girls might. If they weren't in a club-centric league, they could just go to EDP and get assigned to whatever level makes sense. [/quote]

This isn’t specific to VYS, but it is a little more complicated. I’ve had boys play for VYS travel before. One season the team lost every regular season game - every one. The other boys’s VYS travel team won every game by blowouts. So some fine tuning of the boys level of competition may be needed, too. [/quote]

Yep.

Big, big problem with "club-centric" leagues.

How do you improve the team that lost every game? Some players will surely want to leave, and who'd be inclined to come over from another club? They'll end up promoting from the Black team, and that's not going to make them better.

I've been beating this drum for a while. I'm usually met with zombies: "But ... CCL ... good ... coach ... say ... CCL ... good ... (and VPL needed because ECNL)."[/quote]

Exposing my ignorance of all this jargon ... could you explain what you mean by "club-centric" leagues?  I understand (thanks to your blog!) that there are different leagues, e.g. NCSL, ECNL, etc.  I understand that VYS plays in one (or more) of these leagues.

But what do you mean by "club-centric" leagues?  Sorry, I'm just trying to understand what you see as the potential fix to this type of imbalance.  We like VYS but don't enjoy seeing our kids (a) lose every game or (b) win every game by huge margins.  I'm trying to figure out what the solution to this is, whether going with another club or lobbying VYS to make some systemic change. [/quote]

"Club-centric" leagues (CCL, Virginia Premier League -- VYS is in the latter) schedule club vs. club rather than team vs. team. Membership in the league doesn't change from season to season, so you'll play the same teams every year.

Your options would be:

1. Lobby VYS to leave the VPL. I don't think it would get very far because VPL is now also an ECNL regional league, which carries a certain amount of prestige.

2. Insist that your son plays on the Black team rather than Red.

3. Lobby U.S. Soccer to institute a nationwide pyramid system of its own so that U.S. Club Soccer (VPL) and U.S. Youth Soccer (CCL, EDP, NCSL) can't set up all these competing leagues that don't give everyone a good competitive level. Good luck![/quote]

If you have a son on a red team I would not advocate moving to black just to win more games unless he's riding the bench. There is a HUGE difference at VYS between the red and black teams especially as they get older. I have 2 kids there one on red and one and black. The red team gets everything and the black team is just there to help pay the bills. Club fees have a $100 difference over the course of the year and the red team gets an additional practice each week, practices over the winter, gets better coaches, goes to more and better tournaments etc... It's my biggest complaint of VYS.[/quote]

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