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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a former small Western county attorney, I am unsurprised by the failures of the local cops in this situation. This is aside from whether our cops should ever have to face perpetrators armed with weapons of war. This incident highlights a root reason why we have problems in policing in this country - so many of our law enforcement are woefully undertrained and untested. Other developed countries require years of education before putting law enforcement officers on the street, but in many American jurisdictions, they have as little as a 40 hour training and in some cases they are allowed 12 months of working before having to complete that training. 40 HOURS. The stylist who colors your hair has much more training.

We need police reform in America. We need educated well trained cops.[/quote]

I don't want to draw attention away from the gun control issue -- which the primary issue and the alpha-omega of this problem.  But I agree that training and recruitment of law enforcement is also a huge problem.  People keep saying to put more armed security at doors -- who do they think is going to do that? The police departments can't get people into their academy classes.  Instead of trying to weed out the officers who are substandard, they are begging for anyone to stay, because they do not have enough people to cover shifts.  Officers that are there are being forced to work OT they don't want, and are retiring as soon as they can, or even leaving valuable pensions on the table because they can't stand it anymore.  The big city departments pay better and offer better benefits, so they will generally attract better recruits -- but even they can't find people, so I can't imagine the small town departments are doing better.  The lack of gun control is one big factor -- who wants to do this job knowing that any depressed kid can be armed like an guerilla army?  
I also continue to have questions about chain of command decisions here, and whether the 911 operators were feeding hte police the information about continued incoming calls from children who were still alive in the classrooms.  [/quote]

I don't know - maybe we can pay people more in this profession? Just.as with teachers, offer more money. Then you will have more candidates, and you can also weed out the lazy and incompetent and ignorant. Require years of rigorous training. Right now, we get the bottom of the barrel in both these professions because we don't value them.

Although, agreed - even the best trained PO is not going to stand a chance against an AR 15.[/quote]

Why wouldn't a trained PO with equivalent firepower not stand a chance?[/quote]

You want guards with AR 15s in schools? Yikes. [/quote]

You want dead kids instead?  Gross.[/quote]

I don’t. Which is why I support gun reform. Not turning our country into Sudan. [/quote]

Rainbow unicorns that fart candy would be nice too. [/quote]

Except literally every other developed country put laws into place and they have very few mass shootings. It's not a unicorn, it's very possible. [/quote]

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