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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All this begs the question, is staying BY for MLSN/GA worth all the trouble and potential downsides?[/quote]

What potential downsides? 🤣 [/quote]No downsides if they just pull a DA and close up shop without warning.[/quote]
DA didnt really "close up shop without warning". At least on the girls side everyone knew free soccer doesnt work if someone or some kind of action wasnt footing the bill. US Soccer wanted out and MLS wanted in. Which is why MLS Next exists today as a direct replacement of boys DA. Girls DA is a little more complicated because it never should have existed in the first place. Im sure US Soccer approached NWSL to take the girls side over and they simply said no. Which is when a bunch of clubs went back to ECNL and everyone else grouped together and created GA. If you read through the early GA documentation the intent was always to have NWSL take over GA and create Acadamies just like MLS did with the boys. When this didn't happen GA pivoted and copied ECNL. From a business perspective ECNL could have had it all if they would have just let all the DA clubs in. But they chose to only let certain clubs in. And now GA exists as their biggest competitor. [/quote]
What i like about today vs 5 years ago is that because of the ranking app ECNLs mistake of only letting certain clubs in when DA blew up is easy to see. Before the ranking app there were ranking sites that were literally pay to play marketing and they'd print whatever they were paid to say. This still exists but nobody cares anymore if what's being written doesnt sync with the ranking app its garbage. I cant stress how bad it was when recruiters would contact clubs based on articles written by websites that were 100% paid for by leagues.

I see this same type of thing happening for players with stats as AI becomes better able to identify skills. As an example right now with forwards its easy to see who can finish. But, how do you identify mids and defenders? Eventually this will all be assessed by AI and coaches/docs will lose their power to pick favorites.[/quote]

The rankings app is awful. It is MARGINALLY better than GotSport / USARank.[/quote]
Give me a break.

Before the ranking app who was the best club was determined by who paid which site the most $$$.

For better or worse the ranking app provides a consistent and cearly defined way to rank teams. That isnt influenced by $$$. [/quote]

You didn’t really respond to the PP. 🧐

You just made an unsubstantiated loosely related secondary claim about paying for rankings. Neither GotSport, nor USARank are paid rankings…so where is this coming from?

Soccer Rankings app is about as accurate as GotSport and USARank, none are very good, and they all pull from the same data sources. [/quote]

Anyone that puts GotSport or USA rank in the same galaxy as soccer rankings knows absolutely nothing about data analytics.

Only saving grace is that it is Monday morning so they are back at their job at the CBO😂[/quote]

Thanks for responding as I didn't have time earlier when I read that! Just to inform others, they absolutely do not pull from the same sources which is exactly why the app is far better than GotSoccer. Gotsoccer only pulls from events on their own platform and gives out points based on poorly defined tiers (championship/platnum/gold/etc). GotSoccer also heavily rewards just playing more events (hence the paying comment) vs quality.

Rankings app is just pure w/l with SOS adjustments as pointed out before - https://usasportstatistics.net/ They also do a much better job of capturing all the results vs. just what is on GotSoccer. [/quote]

They do pull from the same data.

You’re clearly a parent and have no backend knowledge.

GotSports’ ranking pull is incomplete, so is USA ranking. And you can quibble with their tiering and incentives. (Protip, playing more, more matches, improves ranking accuracy…hence why it tends to reward teams for quantity)

Soccer app attempts to pull a more complete set from the same sources. And places more weight on quality of opponent, sort of a bastardized ELO system.

None of them are very good. But the obsession over soccer ranking app is absurd. As PP stated, it is marginally better.

Ranking soccer teams is actually really really hard. There are too many variables at play that make no one to one match especially meaningful from an analytics perspective. [/quote]

Sure, but your first statement is patently false. Gotsoccer includes 0 from GA/ECNL league/tournament play so it's essentially useless. [/quote]

I'll add to this. Pick a girls age group, and take the eight teams playing in ECNL finals this week.  Look up their rankings in Rankings app - my guess is they are almost all at the top in the USA. Now look for the same teams in GotSport rankings.  I am guessing most of them do not appear as they don't play GotSoccer events.[/quote]

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