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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is extremely weird to call Tier 2 “academy” when they revolve their season around HS soccer.  Such an obvious marketing gimmick.  Do they think parents are that stupid?  Oh right, they are.[/quote]

Extremely weird? It’s actually pretty normal in youth sports. “Academy” used to mean something specific. Now it just tantamount to “program.” It’s marketing at this point.[/quote]

Substituting the ever-so-prominent “MLS Academy” name, that so many Dads on here drool over, and imparting it to their second tier league, is weird yes.  In fact it is blatantly deceitful because it used to be the pinnacle of what parents could tell others and now it means the opposite.  It also forces those same dips*!t parents to say homegrown which is in and of itself self a weird name .[/quote]

It's going to be really interesting if MLSN/GA stays BY.[/quote]

True.  Would be a very strange business decision on their part but could be the best thing for p2p honestly as it gives true space for an SY league like ECNL .  But from a national standpoint, I think it hampers developing and determining the best players as the two leagues would play each other almost never.   [/quote]

I think it's strange people don't understand why they would and who believe SY is the end all be all.[/quote]

Not a BY-Stan, but this is 100% spot on. The reasons to not change are glaringly clear.

I think the denial is likely from girls’ parents, and is a response to the obvious risk ECNL is taking in an ALMOST all or nothing gamble to make its boys side competitive with the talent draw of MLSN.

If MLSN switches, it would force GA to also switch, which gives relief to the ECNL girls’ parents. Probably also explains the “Trish-dude.”[/quote]Once RAE is set to Aug-Dec kids, at U13 it will be tough for MLSN to identify players and be smart enough to pick the new players that could take advantage of RAE in a BY set up. MLSNs best chance would be to get their leagues down to about U10 to develop a BY ecosystem. But with DCU canning U14, they have a tough bridge to get from 8 year olds in BY aiming for the goal of free play at U15, playing true academy ball, with expensive online school to boot. Essentially MLSN P2P clubs will have to pick the best 8 year olds and will have a tough time cherry picking kids that have always played under an SY system. Kids won't love going from being a star in SY at the best positions to riding the pine and getting the left over or utility positions one year up in BY.[/quote]

The holy grail is increasing participation with SY AND keeping enough BY around to have strong players from all birth months of the calendar. Also, why would it be considered really playing up a whole lot if Aug-Dec is only playing with Jan-July from the same birth year? They'd be the same age![/quote]

Because they would have to transition from a SY system to a BY system and skip an age group to do so. Only way this works is if mlsnext clubs have their own leagues and systems starting at u8. [/quote]

Spoiler alert, the p2p clubs already do. And have in house leagues.[/quote]No, travel soccer starts at U8. Profit clubs have house leagues above as a cash cow, not to identify kids and munis have rec leagues as a community service. Real tou[/quote]

So…translating that as “yes they do, but it’s stupid, and I don’t like it. Only rec soccer is a legitimate platform for how we identify talent prior to Academy”[/quote]Bad translation. I wish clubs didn't label kids at 7 years old as winners and losers but its their business model not mine. The bulk of the poaching tends to come from other travel not rec or house. Again, not my rules. A Q4 kid going from rec/house in SY to high level travel one year up in BY isn't a well worn path.[/quote]

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