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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"There is no doubt and no one is arguing that this girl passed out and Brock was seen dry humping her. He admitted to digitally penetrating her [b](with her consent)[/b] and his admission is probably the prosecution's definitive evidence that Brock is the one who did that. Without his admission and no witness seeing that actually happen it would have been hard to prove that Brock was the one who penetrated her. Emily had evidently been walking around that party VERY drunk for a while with no memory of what she had done or had done to her. W/o Brock's admission I doubt that it would have been clear what had happened to her. "

What did he perceive as consent? Was she not drunk past the ability to make informed consent at that time? If she was into him and enjoying the experience, his groping would not have caused abrasions and lacerations.  My belief is she did not give consent. And apparently the jury agrees with me. 
He is a convicted felon.

This reminds me somewhat of the Ryan Diviney case. He got into a sports argument in a parking lot near his school (WVU) and the kids he was arguing with had been drinking. One sucker punched him and Ryan fell to the ground. Another kid (college student who had been drinking), then kicked him in the head (witnesses say, "punted him like a football')
His kicker's defense was that he had been drinking and thus was not responsible for his actions. I say, if someone will kick a guy when they are down when drunk, they would have also done this while sober. Ryan has been in a  coma for years cared for by his dad. The kicker, Austin Vantrease, served his sentence and is now on parole. What's sickening is Austin's family continues to defend him and blame Ryan for what happened. Not a case of rape, but parenting gone bad.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120104553.html[/quote]

He initially said he he thought she consented because she was rubbing his back. He later said he asked her if he could finger her, and she said "yeah." The whole statement is pretty ridiculous sounding. I'm sure it's the defense his lawyer cooked up, but you're still supposed to tell the truth. I'm sure it wasn't pleasant for Emily to admit she'd been blackout drunk many times before. [/quote]

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