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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone explain why Fox Mews and Trump keep calling Tim Walz a San Francisco liberal when he grew up in Nebraska and is now the governor of Minnesota?

Do they think their voters are idiots who won’t find out the facts?  [/quote]

He didn’t grow up in San Francisco!

He is from Nebraska and went to West Point.[/quote]

How did a guy who went to West Point end uo as an enlisted NG Soldier? Officers come out of West Point.

I am still confused how he’s listed as a Command Sgt Major as he dropped out of the SGM academy. He should not claim to be a SGM or CSM. And he got arrested for drunk driving while a Soldier; that’s a career killer.[/quote]

So funny for you weirdos to hyper analyze a military record while you have no problem with the Cherry Hill, North Carolina “public affairs photographer” and his stolen valor pretending he was some brave hero risking his skin in Iraq. [/quote]
They also have a secret love of couches, the love that dare not rustle its name, and will defend JD’s desperate attempts to get Couchy out of his system.[/quote]

Why do you keep harping on a completely made up story about a couch?  I just don’t get it. [/quote]

Not pp, but it's harmless, compared to the awful stories made up by Republicans that women have abortions out of "convenience." [/quote]

Um, those stores aren’t made up. My BFF had one in college for convenience. And another in grad school. They just didn’t want to be pregnant. Are you saying that didn’t happen?  Are you really that obtuse?[/quote]

Maybe it would help if you defined "convenience."

Every woman I know who had an abortion had it because she wasn't in a position to raise a child well on her own and didn't expect the guy who'd gotten her pregnant to be a good father. [/quote]

I think what PP is getting at is that it was not a "medically necessary" abortion. IMHO all medically necessary abortions (to include rape & incest) are OK. [b]But abortion is not birth control and using it as such is wrong[/b]. So....if I were in charge I would take a more pragmatic approach by way of health insurance coverage qualification measures of "elective surgery" versus "medically necessary". I wouldn't necessarily ban abortion that is "for convenience" but it should be considered "elective surgery" just as any other elective surgery (boob job, tummy tuck, etc.). Same goes puberty blockers, gender affirming care, etc....take a pragmatic approach by way of health insurance coverage qualification measures of "elective surgery" versus "medically necessary" -- that way it's not a matter of banning it but rather ensuring that it truly is "medically necessary" and that the proper medical/psychological testing is done to ensure it is truly "medically necessary". Otherwise...it's just "elective".

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The bolded is your opinion. You can choose not to get an "elective abortion" but you don;t have the right to impose your OPINION on to others.

Mind your own business.[/quote]

Regardless, the whole point of the post was to distinguish between "medically necessary" and "elective" abortions. That's all - because there is a difference.  True, I rambled on about my opinions and what I would do if in charge - taking a very pragmatic approach. But that's where our society has gone wrong...common sense and the pragmatic approach to sticky issues have gone out the window. That being said...I was willing to compromise and honestly thought Roe should have been left alone (if it ain't broke don't fix it kinda of thinking). [/quote]

Are you a doctor?  Are you aware of all of the medically grey areas where someone might need care that could put the fetus at risk?  Especially care for a condition that is NOT life threatening?  If doctors are at legal risk because a fetus has legal rights, there are many medical conditions where a woman will not be able to care as the legal process sorts itself out.

I’m not even a doctor but I had a medical emergency during my first pregnancy that required surgery.  I had a HUGE ovarian cyst.  For one thing the pain was relentless and far worse than labor.  Left to itself the cyst could burst and cause internal bleeding and infection, or could shrink, or could burst with no consequence, or could twist the ovary and cut its blood supply and destroy it, and may or may not harm the fetus depending on what happens.  None of this was necessarily  fatal to me.

Any surgery, particularly an abdominal surgery, puts the fetus at risk.  As a lawyer I CAN very easily imagine a scenario where doctors are directed to NEVER mess with a pregnancy UNLESS there is a very clear MORTAL DANGER.

Don’t put the legal system and legislators and lawyers between women and their care.  Just don’t![/quote]

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