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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow it's almost like letting judges create laws without push back means they could also toss away those same laws.

Who could have foreseen such a obvious turn of events aside from anyone with any hint of pattern recognition whatsoever.

If decide to let judges legislate from the bench, they will inevitably do so in a way that you don't agree with.[/quote]

Roe didn’t legislate any rights away. Nice try.[/quote]

Did you even read what you quoted?  Here, let me bold the relevant section for you.

[b]letting judges create laws without push back means they could also toss away those same laws.[/b]

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Yes I did. And I don’t believe Roe created any law. It preserved the rights of women to access healthcare with limitations pursuant to the interest of the state. In my opinion, the state interest cited in Roe was BS.  But they didn’t legislate from the bench. [/quote]

There was no 'right' to abortion before the justices created it.  Yes, they were legislating from the bench.  Yes, they're doing it again right now.

You're upset because they're legislating from the bench in a way you don't agree with, but you shouldn't hide behind that emotion with lies.  [/quote]

There was no right for black kids to go to public schools with white kids before the justices created it.
There was no right for black people to marry white people before the justices created it.
There was no right for people to use birth control before the justices created it.
There was no right for parents to send their kids to private schools before the justices created it.[/quote]

Those things were always rights and government was violating them when they previously prevented them.  [/quote]

Because you said so?[/quote]

Because all people are entitled to life liberty and property (covers the last two). Additionally we have this thing called the 14th amendment which affords equal protection under the law—meaning laws inferring privileges (like public school and civil marriage) must be applied equally.[/quote]

The right to abortion was also covered under liberty, until it wasn't.  [/quote]

It still stands. [/quote]

DP: it still exists.  The draft opinion is bad law.  The existence of a right to privacy, individual rights themselves, is not a concept that can be ceded.  That is the underlying argument.  That is the 200+ years of "deeply rooted history" that cannot be forgotten.  Government doesn't grant the people privileges.  The people grant government powers and retain.  We the people.[/quote]

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