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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, that is was pretty awful. And it sort of puts the whole obsession with not having premarital sex in perspective. The consequences for those girls was just so dire--you can't blame a Mrs H for doing everything in her power to prevent it. My grandmother's best friend got pregnant out of wedlock in the 1920's--the father was a good guy (actually a good friend of my grandfathers), and they got married, but both their parents disowned them. My grandfather went out on a limb and managed to get the guy a job in another state, and my grandmother basically went to friends and relatives to beg starter furniture and baby clothes for them (after trying to talk her friend's mom into forgiving her). The story had a basically happy ending, but it could have been not good. If you read histories of orphanages in that time period, most of the kids were not orphans. They were just kids whose mothers couldn't keep them....and sometimes the moms would come back for them when they could, or not. [b]Very sad, and everyone should remember that history when they complain about welfare. Welfare was designed to let those mothers keep their kids[/b].[/quote] I agree 100%. I feel that story line should be shown to everyone who wants to dismantle the social safety net.[/quote] I'm that PP...and, I'm sure no one cares, but just to correct the historical record. I remembered that, when my grandmother went to her friend's parents to try to plead with them to forgive her, one of the parents did take pity. I think it was the dad, but I might be remembering wrong. He gave my grandmother some money behind the other parent's back, so that they could get set up in the new city, and told my grandmother never to tell the other parent. I'm not sure if the parents every forgave her and met their grandchild (children -- I think they had another a few years later)... it always seemed so sad and dumb to me, and I was always proud of my super religious grandmother for not being a judgmental jerk about it.[/quote]
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