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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two fallacies being perpetuated in this most recent set of posts.  With 10 pct legacy, 15 pct URM (less than demo representation in U.S.) and 7 pct athletic recruits in a typical Harvard class - and some overlap between these groups - the significant majority of admits in any year are "unhooked".  So if junior doesn't get in, the main reason is because he/she was rejected in favor of someone looking a whole lot like himself.  Further, closer inspection of the admits from places like Sidwell to Yale and Harvard and Stanford is that there are a whole lot of white, upper middle class non-legacy kids, with acceptance at a higher admit rate than from any of the local publics.

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PP, your stats for those categories are very low.  Regarding legacies, see the earlier post in this thread with quote from the Crimson -- 16% legacies.  And NYT reports 13% recruited athletes (almost double your figure) -- http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/sports/before-athletic-recruiting-in-the-ivy-league-some-math.html?_r=0.  [b]As to URM's, Harvard's 2013-2014 Common Data Set indicates that about 25% of the freshman class was in one of these categories: Hispanic, Black, "two or more races (non-Hispanic), Native American, or Pacific Islander.  [/b]

and at top area privates, you also find -- among the hooked and "unhooked" -- children of the rich and powerful.  Even if they're white non-legacies, they stand a much better chance of admission than a MIDDLE CLASS or UPPER MIDDLE CLASS unhooked white kid.  looks like some earlier posters were correct to advise that an unhooked middle class kid is better off, from a college admissions standpoint, attending a strong public school.

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just checked, and that same data set shows 11+% international and 18+% Asian.[/quote]

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