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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18:42, there shouldn't be a free speech exception for insanely wrong or hate-filled speech. Precisely because we can prove all the atrocities of the Holocaust, we don't need to ban the wretched people who deny it. Better to know who they are and shun them then force them to be quiet.

Relatedly, the principle is not that there is only freedom of speech for true speech. [/quote]

We don't ban Holocauast denial in this country.  In some European countries, they do, which we can debate or criticize.  However, they lived through it firsthand, and if they believe that even to challenge or deny it is so dangerous as to possibly allow it to occur again, that is a fear that we don't have in this country.  For something so recent and dangerous as the Holocaust, debate over the best way to assure it will not be repeated is warranted.  They have found their way and we have ours, and the issue is not free speech but prevention of genocide.  Perhaps their way will evolve over time, perhaps ours will.

I'm not 18:42, but I did post earlier about the exception for negation of crimes against humanity.[/quote]

I know all of that but I disagree with the choice those countries have made. [/quote]

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