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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought below was an interesting perspective from a Yahoo poster.  Usually Yahoo comments are despicably racist but I thought this comment was interesting even though I disagree on one of his opinions.

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WJ Alden • 17 hours ago
As a private university, Harvard should have the right o admit whomever it wants. Of course most people at Harvard don't think businesses should have the right to hire whomever they want, so I guess they can't use that argument.

However, while Asians in the US may do better, on average, than non-Asians, they do not outperform the rest of us to a degree that suggests they should be >20% of Ivy League student bodies. Whether in politics, business, or culture, the evidence just isn't there. Are universities supposed to stick purely to grades and test scores - on which Asians do really, really well - to decide whom to admit, or [b]can they look at post-college performance to understand that those aren't great predictors of our future elite?[/b]

If you look at just grades and test scores you could probably make a strong case that elite universities are discriminating against Asians. A look at post-college success, though, greatly weakens the case.

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Of course not. It's still white's world out there.  I must tell you, I am tired of people making Asian kids so one dimentional - like they can't do anything other than GPA and test scores. The fact that they perform at a higher level (w/ GPA/test scores) doesn't mean they can't do other things.  [/quote]

What else can they do?[/quote]

Anec-data here....

The Val of my DD's high school class was Asian. Of course, he had the 4.0 unweighted GPA, 5s in 7+ APs, and the 2300 plus SAT I/800 SAT IIs. But on top of that, he was a varsity swimmer at a state-qualifying level (24 hour/week commitment in season, 15/hour/week out of season), president of two clubs, NHS, firsts in state science fair every year. He also had a part time job (lifeguarding).

Shut out of every Ivy.

[/quote]As CalTech becomes increasingly Asian (over 60% to date), just how many students, Asian and non-Asian with the credentials you listed above will be shut out of not just CalTech but of every Ivy?  Even if it were 100%, there are just so many seats.  Then what?

Also, the credentials you listed above are not unusual, not by a long shot.  Mosey on over to College Confidential.  Those attributes are becoming a dime a dozen.[/quote]

PP here. His credentials were as good as, or superior to, the (white) kids from DD's class who were admitted to Ivys. [/quote]If you have ten applicant kids who have the exact same credentials and an additional one that has the same credentials BUT also speaks Russian and Farsi, who do you think Harvard is going to pick?  The one who has that extra that adds another dimension to the community?

The person you described sounds extraordinary indeed but I have seen so many kids on College Confidential with the same attributes, and it is heartbreaking there isn't room for them all.  But if I were a betting person, I would bet of the 2,000 selected for Harvard, the majority probably have the same distinguished attributes as your person.[/quote]

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