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- PP never said that no Muslim and no Arab can be trusted. Point to where she said this, please. Instead, she said people in the pay of al Saud can't be trusted. I agree. I hope you see the difference now and that you'll stop making up utter tosh like this.[/quote]
I'm the PP you're describing.  I have to add that yes, I distrust the Islamically inspired (meaning Muslim scholars and historians) claims about the pre-Islamic period because it's an article of faith in Islam that its advent lifted Arabs from the darkness.  It's based on ideology and not evidence.  Actual historical evidence about that time is quite scarce.  But it does fit the Muslim narrative because it makes Islam look good.  It's perfectly OK for Islam to look good because there are many good things about, but the comparison should be based on historical record, and not on a broken one that sounds like "during jahiliya women were buried alive had no rights wah wah and then Islam came and they ascended into greatness and equality".   Islam did bring improvements were women but were they as revolutionary as Muslim discourse would have you believe? Probably not. They were a good step forward in the context of time, but an incremental step, not a leap from darkness to enlightenment. [/quote]

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