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[quote=Anonymous]Wow! A whole new multi-page thread on Islam popped up while I was sleeping.  I read the beginning and skipped to the end.

Some familiar themes: Lots of conversion to Islam so Islam will be the majority religion in the US by 2030 or 40 or whatever.  And then lots of tedious references to demography and its methodologies.

How about this:  An unsustainable trend is unsustainable.  Women in America are not wholesale going to take up the hijab, a really annoying garment that is passed off as traditional and required by the Koran, which exhorts women to cover only their zeinat or beautiful things, a term that allows for a wide range of interpretation and in today's social context could justify a bikini.  It is fantasy to think a Muslim takeover s happening anytime soon and it is completely puzzling as to why the Islam supporters on this board are so salivating over the prospect.

Another theme:  It is the duty of all to find out everything they can about Islam but only from anointed thinkers and jurists, who all write really poorly.  (I understand it's probably a translation, but faulting people for not plowing through this simply awful and incomprehensible prose is misplaced.)

It's also laughable.  These jurists and thinkers are simply not smart.  This is how it works in much of the Arab world.  Everyone must take a high school exit exam.  Those with the highest grades may take the few slots at the state universities' schools of medicine.  The next highest can enter the engineering schools.  And so on through the arts and sciences.  If you barely pass with a 50%, only the school of religious studies is open to you.

These "scholars" are far from the best and brightest and their own governments wouldn't trust them with someone's health or designing a building that wouldn't collapse.  And yet, people are actually supposed to believe and follow whatever they say.  The limited intellectual ability of these scholars explains why religious magazines in the Middle East are so pre-occupied with matters of ritual purity, a really primitive aspect of religion that requires little higher intellectual thought.  They also evoke the image of angels dancing on the head of a pin.

Examples: Q. On which foot should you enter a bathroom? A. Can't remember; honestly why would anyone even think of this question.  More infamously this year: Q. May I have sex with my wife after she has died? A. Yes, up to six hours after.

This was not true in medieval Islam--theologians were the best and the brightest and were often the same who made contribution to the advancement of science and medicine.

Islam needs a Jesuitical shock force to clear away all the rubbish thinking and restore true Islamic theological debate about things that really matter. [/quote]

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