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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For a better understanding of the Arabic language you should consult a good book on Arabic etymology. The Arabic language is very complex and it is advisable that you consult a specialist in the language when trying to affirm or negate certain meanings.

but again, we've already been through the discussion of meanings of words, just for example,

"Udhi'ya or Udhu'wa, are two names for the egg of the ostrich."

Udhiya is simply a singular of Dahyyaat. Udhuwa is the same word as Udhiya. Also, Deheya or Deheyya also means Udhiya. In the Arabic grammar, depending on the position of the word in the sentence, we sometimes substitute the pronunciation of the "y" with a "w". Udhiya and Udhuwa are not two different words. They are the same word. The Arabic word "dahaha" is derived from the root word "dahya" which literally means "egg". Udhuwa is the reference to "dahya". In Arabic, words that are referenced are sometimes written differently. Udhuwa and "dahya" are written differently, but they mean the same word.[/quote]

Great. But then why do Muslim sources say "flat"? It would also be nice to see a cite to actual usage, but not the evangelizing cite.[/quote]

There is a pretty extensive wikipedia page that consolidates the argument for & against. By appearances, it looks as though the "the Earth is an ostrich egg" is a post-dated rationalization. Sorry Muslim poster.

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Flat_Earth_and_the_Qur'an[/quote]

I really wouldn't go with Wikipedia, lol, again like i said previously anyone can go on wikipedia and write everything they want , just like anyone can go online and write anything they want. What I wnt to know is what muslim scholar hs come out and say the earth is flat?[/quote]

The wikipedia article is completely sourced to actual, reputable sources. Where are your sources? Other than Muslim evangelical websites? Frankly, it doesn't matter which Muslim scholar comes out and says the Earth is flat. The point is the Quran says so (unless you're torturing the meaning of the individual words beyond meaning).

Furthermore, as I posted up-thread, there was a pretty clear scientific consensus at the time that the Earth was not flat. So even if the Quran got it "right" it's not particularly impressive.[/quote]

I am sorry but the Quran does not say that the earth is flat, I have given you the arabic word that is used in that verse and you are free to go open an arabic dictionary and look up the meaning of that word, thats pretty easy to do and is very simple, we don't need wikipedia for that. And I am not trying to make it like the Quran got it right so its impressive?? I was barely just answering to your question, to be honest with you I am more at awe at other things said in the Quran besides the shape of the earth.[/quote]

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