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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]San Francisco. Never been in a city where I saw so much human excrement as that. [/b]I saw a PP mention Naples. I lived there for 2 years. It had its trash piles, but not really that bad. San Francisco grossed me out. [/quote]

This is heartbreaking. I remember how 25 years ago San Francisco was a jewel. [/quote]

It still is a shockingly beautiful place, almost surreally so. But I've traveled many places and there's only two cities in the world where someone has crapped on the sidewalk right in front of me: NYC and SF. [/quote]

Yea right. I live in the Bay Area and go into SF at least twice a month and have never seen anyone crapping on the sidewalk, SF is very clean and surprisingly safe for a large city. [/quote]

I believe them. I lived in Seattle and I saw a homeless man taking a dump in my neighbor's yard in broad daylight. [/quote]

Another Seattle person here. Lots of poop incidents and more litter than I’ve seen since I was a small child. The littering culture here is so weird! How is this still a thing?

When I moved here from NYC I thought it would be cleaner (and in the mountains and suburbs it generally is) but it really isn’t. NYC might get gross on trash day but shopkeepers and supers and maintenance people are on the sidewalks every day sweeping and hosing them off and scrubbing things down. And there are trash cans everywhere so people don’t litter in the same way. When I lived in Baltimore in a bad neighborhood my neighbors were out there scrubbing their stoops every day. Same in not-nice urban New Jersey.

Seattle is grimy and dirty and I’ve walked past the same filth and litter piles for weeks and weeks outside nice restaurants and shops.

I don’t understand why the culture of caring for the outside of your property doesn’t exist here. [/quote]

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