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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wait- why was my post on how much maternity leave pays in other countries deleted? I think it’s really relevant because Americans think other countries are getting 100% pay and they aren’t. They get a few hundred a week. [/quote]

There is hard data about how much rich European countries contribute for childcare. It's orders of magnitude higher than in the US.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/upshot/child-care-biden.html
How Other Nations Pay for Child Care. The U.S. Is an Outlier.
Rich countries contribute an average of $14,000 per year for a toddler’s care, compared with $500 in the U.S.[/quote]

I lived in Britain. I still have friends there. Childcare costs are very high, everyone complains about it, just like in the US. Europe is not monolithic. What works in Denmark isn't true for Britain.

[b]I find it interesting that the posters who are either from Europe, worked in Europe or have close relationships with European coworkers are more realistic and cautious in their responses then the people who keep talking about how wonderful it is. Who I don't think ever lived in a European country. Because if you did, you'd know salaries are a lot lower and cost of living is still pretty high.[/b] And even the healthcare varies from country to country. It's not perfect. I've experienced the health system in three countries including the US and found pros and cons to all of them.

If you really want to think Europe is paradise, go for it. I'm loved my time in the UK but there's plenty of warts and I'm happy to be back here. [/quote]

The idolizing of family life in Europe is bizarre. My European friends have way less money and staying home with kids isn’t an option at all. Two adults working is = to 1.25 adults working here. Housing costs are insane. Salaries are low. The parental leave is around $400 a week in the most generous country. The job market is less flexible and in many countries kids only go to school half day or have Wednesday off, and aftercare or PT childcare is difficult to find. Instead the mom is expected to work PT and deal with the terrible school hours.

There’s a stark difference between college grads with kids here and college grads with kids in Europe. It’s night and day and if you lived there, you’d know it.

I’d retire in Europe but you couldn’t pay me to try to raise a family there. Don’t even get me started on the tiny apartments and houses. [/quote]

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