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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think most people can’t really comprehend what a 5 to 10 percent admission rate looks like, but that’s the range at most top schools, even schools outside the T20 which have comparatively generous ED acceptance rates.[/quote]I agree. I think low acceptance rates should be expressed as ratios, not percentages, because it paints a clearer picture.
20% is 1 in 5
10% is 1 in 10
5% is 1 in 20
2% is 1 in 50[/quote]

The acceptance rate really needs to be looked at separately for hooked and unhooked applicants, because the results are totally different. At a school with a 3.5% overall acceptance rate, hooked applicants might see something closer to a 15–25% admit rate, while unhooked applicants could be down around 0.1%.

Everyone knows being a hooked applicant effectively works like a form of affirmative action in admissions.[/quote]

I generally agree, this is why parent's of "high stats" kids lose their minds on this forum.  I wouldn't describe it as affirmative action, to my mind the issue is that some number of the spots are reserved for the athletes, legacies, donors, etc.  Our unhooked kids are vying for a much smaller unknown number of seats against a much larger pool of applicants who are all very similar to them.   [/quote]

Again, it's not that difficult to figure it out.  For example: my kid applied ED1 to a T10 school. It's a Big10 school with many sports (including Football). So yes, of the ultimate freshman class of ~2K, it should be obvious that 100-140 will be athletes, who are typically admitted during ED, which is typically about 10-15% of total ED acceptances.  And I'd guess another 10-15% are "highly hooked applicants", as this school has a ton of famous (and wealthy) alums, whose kids, if they have the stats will likely get in if they apply.  So that means 25-30% of the ED slots are going to "hooked applicants" or athletes.  Not that difficult to figure out.  That is why it's always said that ED doesn't help your kid as much as you think.  Sure the 25% acceptance rate seems higher than 5% (and it is) but it's not really 25%, it's closer to 15% (I'm not going to do the exact math)

ANd yes, 1200 of the 2K freshman are taken from ED, just like at many T25 schools.  They want to manage yield, they know people apply to 10-20 schools, so if you are willing to commit with ED, they will happily fill 50%+ of their class that way.  They need to have 2K students attending, not 2200, not 1800.  ED is a way to manage that yield.

But none of this is a shock.  Simple research will tell you that.  It's like that at most schools.

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You can just Northwestern. Also, you need to divide the available spots by 2 since they are aiming for 50/50 gender parity. A lot people forget this step. [/quote]

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