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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it. [/quote]

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them. [/quote]

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off. [/quote]

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear. [/quote]

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it. [/quote]

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly. 
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️[/quote]

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense. [/quote]

You are wrong in all sorts of ways. E.g., a hockey player just came out of the closet and credited the show:  https://www.out.com/gay-athletes/heated-rivalry-real-hockey-player-coming-out
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That guy was already out. Lives in Vancouver with his boyfriend and plays on an LGBTQ rec league. And he wasn’t a pro player - half of Canada’s population are ‘hockey players’. Just someone looking for a couple minutes of fame. [/quote]
No need to move the goal posts. Fact is, this show is breaking down barriers for lgtbq players in hockey. [b]Male hockey culture is extremely homophobic. [/b]If people are more comfortable with themselves or others after watching this show, I'm all for it. [/quote]

Eh.  It used to be extremely homophobic.  Both of my sons play hockey, D1 and what you’d probably call semi-pro.  There are always jerks on every team, but by and large it’s much more reflective of society at large.[/quote]

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