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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Only non-ED yield rates count. I hope it’s not too hard to comprehend.[/quote]

Why? Because you said so?

[b]If someone is applying ED, that’s a pretty strong signal they actually want to go to the school.[/b]

It’s the strongest signal possible.[/quote]
Or they know they have little chance for better schools. But I know it’s hard to argue with an idiot.[/quote]

You know it’s a strong argument when you resort to name calling.

It’s U Chicago, there aren’t that many “better” schools and [b]those that are higher ranked are lottery plays.[/b]

A high stats student could attend the excellent Chicago as a sure thing or bet that they can win the Yale lottery but forego any advantage with ED to Chicago.

Taking the Chicago deal seems like a smart play for most students. [/quote]
I can think of a dozen schools that are lower-ranked that are lottery plays. Ergo, Chicago is overrated. It is that simple. You can’t have your cake and eat it too….if it looks too good to be true….whatever cliche you want to use, this conclusion is inescapable. And yet the Chicago boosters claim otherwise, thinking they have done a brilliant run around the entire college admissions system.[/quote]

I think you’re in the minority re the obsession with admissions rates. Selectivity isn’t the key factor in determining excellence. Students wanting to be there, peer reputation, academic excellence, caliber of student, and retention rates are what speak to most people, which is why many very qualified candidates choose ED to non-Ivy top schools (Chicago, Northwestern, Hopkins, etc.) over competing against legacy candidates at HYP. It’s the smart move when you aren’t a legacy, a recruited athlete, or an otherwise hooked candidate. [/quote]
Sure it is. Just don’t pretend it’s a top 20 school. Top 20, maybe. You can’t have your cake and eat it. As for excellence, the Chicago of a generation ago (with 1/2 as many undergrads and a much higher admit rate) was a place of excellence; now it is just a striver school with 30% Econ majors — literally. So much for “life of the mind.”[/quote]

chicago is widely seen as better than many ivies[/quote]
Absolutely not. Among “top” students in a good high school, only 3rd tier ones end up in UChicago. The first tier goes to HYPSM, and second tier goes to rest of ivies and Duke.[/quote]

I've posted about this before. My DCs go to one of the top high schools in the country. The avg SAT is above 1500. Top 10% (and/or hooked) goes to HYPSM. The second tier (top 20%) goes to [b]Duke, Penn, Columbia[/b]. Third tier (top 30%) goes to [b]Cornell, NU, [i]Chicago[/i], GU, and WASP[/b].

The third-tier level usually comes down to student preference - the kids who go to Cornell or WASP are not "better" than the ones who go to NU or UC, or vice versa. But they are all phenomenal students with SAT scores close to or above 1550 (as we can see in Naviance).

Thus I would agree with you that Chicago is not a top 10 school. It is in the top 15. So if your/your child's ego is tied up in a TOP TEN school, you should strike Chicago from your list.[/quote]

I doubt it there is a clear line drawn between your second and the third tiers.  These schools are in the same tier except for Chicago.

All these schools have a much larger percentage of class from RD round except for Chicago.  Cornell has cut down much of its ED class, Georgetown does not have ED, and WASP have no ED advantage.

When an applicant has no confidence in RD, they would choose ED Chicago.[/quote]

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