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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Dumb thead

Winston Churchill lived to 90 and smoked cigars constantly all his life.  One was even named after him
Fidel Castro live to be 90. He smoked Cuban cigars daily[/quote]

Michael Jordan too. We'll see how longà he lasts but a lot of cigar smokers lived long and fruitful lives.[/quote]

Yeah, it's positively healthy. Go smoke up. In fact, try to do it in your office and tell your boss there is nothing harmful about it to you or anyone else.[/quote]

Obesity kills people. Maybe you should stop eating?[/quote]

Did you just call me obese? 😂😂😂😂

Too bad you’re wrong about 1) me being obese; and 2) that obesity kills people. It doesn’t heart disease kills people. Diabetes kills peope. Those are complications of obesity but being obese by itself doesn’t kill you.

Not surprising that you’re ignorant about that. [/quote]

OK, I'll be sure to put my fat under my skin and not in my blood, and process my dietary sugar without insulin. No problem! [/quote]

Being fat in itself does not kill you. Plenty of fairly healthy fat people walking around. Again, your ignorance is showing. [/quote]

There are smokers who never die from smoking.

Smoking is definitely bad as it increases risks of cancer and a whole host of health problems.

Being obese is definitely bad as it increases so many health risks and obese people are not healthy.

Will point out American life expectancy has declined while obesity has soared and smoking rates collapsed. Makes you wonder! [/quote]

No, it doesn't make you wonder. It is a well known fact that obesity, like smoking, increases those risks and I never claimed otherwise. But being fat in itself does not kill you as PP ignorantly claimed.[/quote]

And smoking itself is also not guaranteed to kill you. It increases the odds but is not inevitable. By the way, just ask yourself how many fat or obese elderly people do you see? Not many.

Your tone throughout this thread has been that somehow a cigarette or cigar is forever ruining your health and condemning you to inevitable early death. Which is just as ignorant as anyone deluding themselves into thinking a regular tobacco habit isn't harmful in the long run. Smoking related illnesses emerge out of sustained, regular tobacco usage over multiple decades, and the volume of usage also plays a clear role. Someone enjoying the occasional celebratory cigar once or twice a year is in a very different place than someone with a two pack a day cigarette habit, or one cigar a day habit. [/quote]

Have you seen Trump?

I'm also very tired of explaining myself. You misrepresented what I said so terribly. The science is clear. I don't care if you want to kill yourself.

PS I'm not obese nor do I smoke because I understand that both are bad for you and never said otherwise.[/quote]

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