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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think some of you have kids in the trenches. My daughter and friends are all freshmen and most of them would be happy to date or hang out with any guy in the top 50% but no one asks them out or really pays them any attention. [b]They go to darties or pre-game events and are ignored by the guys who just focus on the top 5%, STUNNING girls.[/b] There are easily 2-3  girls for every guy. Their academic lectures are generally 100+ and it's really hard to meet guys in those because no one talks pre or post lecture and they're not asking random girls out on their way out the door. Places like the gym are also 2:1 female. Then there are social and academic clubs but it's slow going there to meet anyone 1:1 and again a lot of girls.  My daughter would say yes to a date with a guy in a heartbeat (and has no interest in the top 10% guys or bro culture at all) but guys don't pay any attention to her because she's just one of a sea of girls. It's the same for her roommate, hallmates, etc. They're getting asked out either. Same for her friends at other schools. There are all large universities private/public (Michigan, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, UVA, Wisconsin, Boston College, etc). It's very hard out there if you are pretty, smart, well dressed but not the hottest in the room.  [/quote]

No. From what I have heard guys are not making the effort any more. You can google it and get the usual videos with woman complaining that guys are not approaching any more. Who knows if the videos are really but there seems to be a boatload of videos on the subject. [/quote]

I guess this is why my skinny STEM kid seems to punch way above his weight with the ladies.  He has just never been shy approaching girls since 9th grade.[/quote]

Curious — does he have sisters?
Everyone was a little surprised that my son is on his second girlfriend but I think the fact that he has sisters gives him some extra cknfidence around girls.

I do think that the guys that know how to talk to girls in a nice way and aren’t scared to do so have some real opportunities here.  Basically the bar is pretty low for these boys.  Don’t seem like an incel.  Don’t seem like you’re days rapey.  Don’t be afraid to talk to a girl.  Shower and brush your teeth.  If you can put on clothes aren’t a just workout clothes and maybe put some product in your hair, you’re way ahead of the game but that’s not even necessary.  [/quote]

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