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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is this Horace Mann? They send a lot of kids to Chicago.[/quote]

Yup - I think they had 20+ kids go to Chicago a year or two ago. I guess those kids really like the color maroon.[/quote]

HM is super rigorous and definitely where fun goes to die, so if you’re chasing brand name and can’t get into Ivies, Chicago would feel like home [/quote]

Don’t put all ivies in one basket  and think they are all alike. The bottom 4 ivies - low and lying- are so so..nothing to write home about.[/quote]

Which are the bottom 4 ivies?[/quote]

I'm guessing PP thinks top 4 are HYP + [ivy i got into].  LOL[/quote]

Bottom 4 are obviously (not in order)

Brown

Cornell

Penn

Dartmouth[/quote]

Not anymore. Columbia now at the bottom perhaps only slightly above Cornell.

After HYPMS, then the next most desirable tier seems to be Duke and Penn. Caltech is its only thing because its so niche. After those, it's Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell, Chicago, JHU, Vandy, etc. [/quote]

Columbia is in a bad spot at the moment but at our kids' TT NYC HS Columbia and Brown were easily the most desirable Ivies after HYP -- Brown much more so this year, for obvious reasons. After that, Penn then Cornell. Dartmouth is an outlier, closer to Williams than the other ivies.

Vandy, Chicago etc are for an entirely different kind of student, much less competitive.
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