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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you read the report, they had alarms on all exterior doors but they were not turned off. They also had a katchakid netting system for the pool but both parents said they since they had been using the pool often, they hadn’t put it on between swims. The dad was feeding the baby a bottle. He had warmed it and was still feeding the baby when he ran out to the pool, he actually set the baby down outside and dove in to get the toddler. The toddler has taken swimming lessons and according to the report he was swimming for 2 minutes before going under but the area where he fell in didn’t have anywhere for him to grab or get out. He normally was very cautious around the pool (wouldn’t go in on his own) but in this case he tripped over something he was carrying and fell in. [/quote]

The dad was sports betting in basketball and he won $100 on his sports betting. Crazy that someone on here is sticking up for the dad.

The 3 year old tripped and fell into the pool and was treading water for two minutes before he could no longer get air. He floated unconscious on his stomach for 7 minutes until his father noticed the dog looking into the pool and that’s when he noticed his 3 y/o floating in the pool who was outside unsupervised (both parents admitted to the police that their son couldn’t swim) for 9+ minutes and his father was watching basketball and blaming the newborn for him being distracted until the police confronted him and he had to change his story because it was caught on camera. [/quote]

I am not sticking up for dad. He was clearly inattentive and that decision cost his son his life and likely will destroy to some degree the lives of the rest of the family. I am stating facts from the report that haven’t yet been discussed (feeding newborn, netting, alarms, swimming lessons)[/quote]

None of those details matter.

Anyone with two kids close in age knows it's not hard to stop feeding an infant to stop a toddler from doing something dangerous. If you have a 3 yr old and a newborn, you will do this daily. Is it annoying to have to set the bottle down, disrupt the infant, and etc.? Yes, though if you are watching the 3 yr old in the same room, you can usually just say something or even intervene with one hand. Feeding an infant is not a reason to let your 3 yr old wander around outside alone for 10 minutes.

The netting is irrelevant if they didn't use it. If a child died in a car accident and wasn't in a car seat, but the family said "oh we have a car seat and do use it sometimes but it just seemed like a hassle to use it this time," would you view that as a mitigating circumstance or actually *evidence of negligence*? For me it's the latter, it means they knew what they were supposed to do and didn't bother to do it anyway. Can't blame ignorance.

Same with the door alarms, if they weren't engaged it doesn't matter. Honestly stuff like this only make me more annoyed because they have this big house with all these expensive features, so they have resources, but they aren't using those resources to keep their kids safe. They want their life to look a certain way on Instagram but aren't doing BASIC things to keep their kids safe. It's gross.

And that period of time after your kids have started swimming lessons but before they are independent in the water is a really important time to supervise your kids in or near water, because they can sometimes be overconfident or extra excited about water, but obviously lack the judgment to know when it's safe. That's your job. My kid didn't actually start swimming lessons until 4 but she was watched like a hawk around water both before and after she started because even though we were a bit late to enroll in swim lessons, we were not lax about water safety. Swimming lessons are not a replacement for water safety, especially at this age when kids have zero other resources (not tall enough to stand up in the water, no judgment for when it's safe to go in, etc. -- a 3 year old could be a decent swimmer and still drown because they are 3 and kids that age are not water safe on their own no matter what).[/quote]

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