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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I find it funny how black and white grown adults can be when arguing on this forum. Yes, it's true you can get a quality education at a large state school just as you can get at an Ivy/T20. But it is also true that the academic quality of your peers is going to be universally higher at the T20.[/b] I went to a state school and I worked my butt off and got an amazing education with some great opportunities, and had some very smart peers. But the general quality of my peers and what they've accomplished nowhere compares to my son's ivy league peer group. Does that make one experience objectively better than the other in every way? No, of course not. [/quote]

I think that I generally agree with this but limiting this to the T20 is insufficient.

But what I absolutely do not agree with is the idea that outside of about 10 schools the peer group is significantly different. Those 10 schools aren't uniquely special and in a group of their own in terms of peer group. They are part of a group of about 25-30 universities and about 12-15 SLACs which all have student populations whose profiles mostly overlap and any assertion that any one of these campuses provides an environment that is significantly different than any of the others in terms of intellectual peers is just nonsense.[/quote]
[b]Top 5 SLACs are much better and have superior outcomes to the ransoms in rank 12-15[/b][/quote]

That is completely incorrect, there is virtually no difference in the student profiles fpr these schools

15 SLACs

10 SLACs with 1500+ median SAT: Amherst, Bowdoin, CMC, Hamilton, Harvey Mudd, Middlebury, Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams
5 more with 1480+ SAT: Carleton, Grinnell, Haverford, Vassar, W&L

All from CDS reports

And they all have virtually the same outcomes.[/quote]
you really think Claremont McKenna and Wellesley are at Williams level? How foolish.[/quote]

It always amazes me how normal the people here think statements like this are.[/quote]
Oh please! We get it you have no argument, but not try to make your position seem rational.[/quote]

The argument is that you are so deep in the weeds of college rankings you don’t even realize how stupid your comments sound. [/quote]

Amen. Talk about splitting hairs.[/quote]

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