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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guarantee you that regardless of how poor or how limited resources you have, a person ambitious for success will find a way to achieve it.  DEI or not :) I say this as someone who is a minority with immigrant parents who owns her own business. What we should do in the education front is find a way to take out the demographic piece altogether and simply judge on merit.  If it's 90% non minorities who are the top 10% of the class so be it.  You simply can't let someone else in just because they aren't white if they couldn't find a way to be up there.  This is why this country really is failing.  You can't limit anyone - not minorities but why would you limit white kids either? Simply because they are white? You have to work.  Doesn't matter about anything else - you find a path for success.  It's 100% doable if you commit.  My whole childhood was a nightmare and I did it and I know many more who did too.  The old boys network exists because it's a cultural decision.  I worked in a field dominated by this and DEI doesn't make it better.  You change it from the inside out.  If the guys won't let me in as a female telling them they have to does not change their minds.  Only I can impress them by my talents.  And if I can't, I can't. Better to find another world where my efforts are appreciated.  But allowing me entrance into a male dominated field doesn't do it - me breaking in and changing their minds so they see why it's right and better to let women in - that is effective and the right kind of change.  That's called buy-in and there's many ways of achieving that over DEI policies which essentially is reverse discrimination. It's to rid people of guilt and take an easier path to change.  Great in the beginning maybe but ultimately it's not lasting. [/quote]

So you are saying meritocracy doesn't really exist... If it truly does, then you wouldn't need to go out of your way to "impress".

As a fellow immigrant, I will have to say this is an incredibly naive take.  The avoidance approach makes you part of the systemic effort to exclude and oppress based on whatever criteria the power at be choose.  This unfortunately is how the model immigrants have learned to cope and survive in this country.  We first try to work hard to prove our worth, then to try hard to impress, when we are told we simply are cut out for the C-suites or whatever, we kowtow and retreat to carve a space in the corner where it doesn't pose a threat.

One thing you said I agree, the old boys network is a culture decision.  Then we need to break that, not allow it to fester and continue onwards.  DEI, while not perfectly executed all the time everywhere, is an attempt.  Now that attempt is being forcefully ended.  So will the world be better with or without it?  or do you rather continue to be ignored and dismissed by the way the old boys network?

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