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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no stigma to CC in CA. At least in the Bay Area, they are full of kids who do it because they want to go to a better UC, want to save money, haven’t figured out what they want to major in yet etc.

CC in California do not all follow one curriculum and they aren’t identical even though they are coded to align with UC and Cal state GE requirements. CC have honors classes, regular classes and online classes. UC and Cal state have transfer guarantees in place to accept these courses. The rigor of the class is dependent on the faculty member. The quality of the discussion is dependent on student peers. At the UCs your lower division courses are mostly lecture hall with a TA running your lab or discussion and grading your work. If you take in person honors courses with a good faculty member you will be well prepared. If you seek out online classes so you can cheat you will not be well prepared.

Some UCs have transfer admittance guarantees if you maintain a specified GPA. However, not all school have TAG and not all majors are eligible for TAG. Part of transferring is meeting not only your GE requirements but pre major requirements. Those differ across the all the UCs. Those classes are not all offered at every CC. A lot of students end up having to do a third year of CC because they missed a pre major requirement. More recently additional programs have emerged called TAP and honors to honors. These increase your chances to 70-80% at Cal and UCLA and others. The problem is that they are only offered at some CC . If you want Cal you have to do DeAnza, if you want UCLA you have to do WV etc. [/quote]

There are also SoCal feeder CCs for the kids down there. It is a very smooth process for majors outside of CS as long as the kid puts in the effort.[/quote]

It’s getting less smooth every year. I agree if you are doing TAG to a specific major that is not impacted then it’s straightforward. Everything else is starting to crack under increased demand. More majors at schools are being pulled off the list. Administrative problems get in the way. Every year there is a burst of problems with UCI transfers which get worked out on appeal but still.. Some CC have really bad counselors that don’t give students the info they need so they are not realizing they need to find a class at another CC to hit the desired school’s pre major requirements. For non TAG schools are using their own criteria. Berkeley reserves almost half its spots for low income students.

It is not difficult for a good student to get straight As for two years in CC especially if you are motivated by your dream school. This used to work very predictably but the number of students doing this is exceeding the spots. With less academic differentiation, you are back in the diversity of your background bucket. [/quote]

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