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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.[/quote]

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.[/quote]

Exactly. That is why I mentioned this. I live in NYC and have friends with kids at allegedly top suburban schools in VA, NC and MD who are obsessed with pushing their kids ahead and think it shows that their kids are so brilliant and their schools are so great. It really doesn't. But they are in their little bubble.

I have also heard that [b]these kids who place into super advanced math sometimes end up struggling if they end up at top colleges because they aren't as prepared as they think they are[/b].[/quote]

I’ve heard quite a few cases where public school students failed miserably in college calculus class.  The AP classes or whatever more advanced math courses offered in these public schools are not well taught.  The foundation is just not there.[/quote]

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One big issue with public schools is that the teachers teach to the AP tests.  But AP Calculus test is NOT Calculus.  There is no real understanding of Calculus being taught there.  Same issue with the more advanced math courses offered in public schools.  The more exposure to it, the worse the consequences.

Elite private schools like PEA PAA teach Calculus on the same level of college Calculus.  If the students passed their class, they would do well in college.[/quote]

Many public school teachers are underqualified to teach Calculus.  Even experienced public school teachers do not touch upon conceptual digressions, proofs, or open-ended modeling problems.  Instead, public schools are doing a lot of repetitive “calculator-active” question drills that mirror the multiple-choice/FRQ format instead of deeper explorations.  Students coming out of public school AP Calculus often have many many underlying gaps.  [/quote]

The poster was just pointing out that high level Calc taught at the high school level isn't always the best for the students going to top engineering schools.  I've found most take at least one over again when they get to these schools to make sure they have a solid foundation for the challenges ahead.  Which is a good idea.  
I did not see a huge difference between the content and quality of my kids' AP Calculus class and my college calculus class.  They followed the Saxon Calculus with Trigonometry and Analytic  Geometry book from cover to cover.  I know this is criticized a lot on these forums, but my kids' school has everyone take a 2 year calculus sequence.  They do Calc AB and then Calc BC, but rather than just covering the topics on the AP exams, they cover everything.  [/quote][/quote]

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