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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's a problem because inevitably non obese shell out billions of dollars to compensate for the incredible drain obese people are on our society.[/quote]

And obese people fund on a daily basis, billions of dollars to compensate for the incredible drain that old people, smokers, children and adults with various disabilities, premies etc. are on the system. Especially so as they are less likely to live long enough to actually get to enjoy the benefits of their hard works.

But who am I to quibble it's easier to openly discriminate against old people than it is children and premies with lifelong disabilities. [/quote]

The difference is "obese people" most likely can make a choice to not be obese.  Just like a smoker can make the choice to not smoke.  But old people and kids/people with many disabilities cannot do anything to change that.  See the difference?

Go purchase life insurance---if you are older, have an illness, are overweight, etc, they charge you more or simply won't insure you.  It's not discrimination, it's just how it works.  
So while everyone should have access to healthcare, it's not unfair to expect some to pay more.  I mean, if I purchase ACA plan now, at 50 I pay more than at 40, and it exponentially goes up until I turn 65 and can switch to medicare.  They do charge me more because of my aging.

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If you are quibbling about dollars what does it matter. Business is business. People can choose to get genetic testing before they have children, they can choose to not drink before and after, they can take vitamins and they can choose to not have children at advanced maternal ages, they can choose to abort if their fetuses have genetic abnormalities, they can choose to not have children all together. Old people can choose to forego costly treatments that don't do much to extend quality or quantity of life. What should the cutoff be... let's see how about 65, most people have lived out their genetic usefulness at that point.

People make all kinds of choices that society has to bear the burden for. It seems to me smokers and obese people probably take much less out of the system than they put in. Think of the savings in Social Security and Medicare alone.

Most things that lead to ill health are choices made by people.. many starting with conception, either choosing to be genetically inferior and having kids to choices made while pregnant... but again it's easy to pick on obese people. Which includes people, and many middle aged men and women who really aren't that overweight to begin with.

I'm not even getting into the people who choose to maintain a healthy or even below healthy weight throughout adulthood and then end of falling and breaking hips because they are frail in old age... we should just cover them in dirt and leave them where they lay every time they fall down and break a hip... costly surgery and rehab to extend life for what the next time they fall and break another hip. [/quote]

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