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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People need to grow up and live near work. My town I grew up in was built at time when workers could not afford either a horse or a car.

Houses were on tiny tiny plots on top of each other to be walking distance from train stations or were near their job.

They had to live walking distance from work or walking distance train.

Pretty sure life was like that for thousands of years. It is not practical to live far from work in a full time in person job with long hours.

My hours were 8 am to 6pm every day for around 20 years. I lived in a small tiny old house that was a fixer upper close in over a big house in suburbs.

My house was 1,300 sf for a family of five with a single parking spot in driveway.

Yes I could afford a big fancy house with a pool and two car garage another 30 miles out. But that is not my bosses problem.

The answer to long commutes is the MOVE
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Oh give it a rest, old hag! Earth to PP, the 21st century is calling and we are supposedly a technological behemoth here in the USA. “Back in the day” there was no broadband. Shocker for you, bye federal remote work and telework have been a thing for 15+ years. I’ve been at my agency for almost 20 years and had some form of remote work the ENTIRE TIME - gasp - even when internet was snail pace and I had a dial up modem! Yes, even before we had our snazzy work-issued laptops to make it even more seamless.

For most government desk jobs there is literally NO reason to be in person 5x a week, if at all. My staff worked full time remote for 7 years without issue. No problems whatsoever. Productivity was fine. Better, actually! People were happy! Morale was much higher! Commitment was much higher.

So yes, logically, people moved out. Why blow $1.3M on a home inside the beltway - on a fed salary(?)-  when you can move out to Leesburg and take VRE 1-2x a week or Odenton and take MARK 1-2x a week.

Where in the DC area is such a community you speak of? There is NO little village of close homes where we can walk to work. This doesn’t exist here. There are $1.2 million condos downtown and $1.4 million tiny single family homes in Del Ray and MoCO. [/quote]

Cheap DC homes exist in DC. Tons of them. My own kid fresh out of school has an in person job in DC. She found a rent controls apt which is very common, any  building in DC built 1975 or older. No rules anyone can get one.  Her building is really nice. Older building. Tons of families in building. You can get a nice two bedroom all redone for around $2,400 a month. You can stay there for life, can never kick you out and rent increases are small. There is your answer.

The answer is rent.   In New York City for instance, a significant majority of households are renters. Specifically, approximately two-thirds (66.7%) of New York City households were renters in 2021. They cant afford to buy close in to work so they rent.

My company we have an insane amount of people in last five years moved to Woodbridge VA to get a big house cheap or way down 66 past Haymarket and even a few people by Chespeake Bay cause we were fully remote Right now we are only back two days a week. I noticed the staff who live in boomdocks are now taking vacation days a lot on their two in person days to cut down on commute.

But that is not a god given right.        [/quote]

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