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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think one clear message on which we can all agree, form this whole incel thing, is:

- boys need to be far more educated and raised as feminists.  It is the antidote to toxic masculinity.  I am talking to you, boy-moms.[/quote]

It is more complicated than that. I have to be sympathetic to their perceptions since THEY seem to be bearing the brunt of the mistakes and bad behavior of generations of men before them. My boys know and have been told about the inequities in history (not just towards women but other cultural groups and races). They know to stand up for people. But all they know is the life they are living and struggling through themselves.

For example, my oldest's college roommate (boys) worked for weeks on a presentation for a prestigious internship position.[b] There were spots for 2 boys and 2 girls from their school. There were about 20 boys and 3 girls who applied. [/b]His roommate did not get it despite being very qualified (grades, ecs etc) but one of the girls who got it had actually ran out of the presentation room in tears due to nerves. This really upset my feminist-raised ds on behalf of his roommate. It isn't going to make them the next Joe Rogans or anything but it doesn't engender empathy.

It is easy to say raise them that way but they face so many other factors and situations outside of the home especially as they get older - peers, reality, internet, other adults and leaders, etc. [/quote]

Weird example, as it’s just a numbers game here. This shouldn’t have anything to do with feminism or empathy—just, sometimes life’s not fair. You can’t always get what you want, and all that.

It feels like everyone is constantly looking for someone to blame for every single disappointment, rather than shrugging it off and looking for a different opportunity.[/quote]

We shouldn't set up unfair advantages based on gender and then tell the losers that "life isn't fair" because then they will reject your entire concept for how society should run. Then they become vulnerable to influence by bad people on the fringes.[/quote]

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