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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s almost like the Department of Education hasn’t been helpful.[/quote]
It's almost like DOE doesn't produce curriculum.  Oh wait, they don't. That's not their job.[/quote]

So, PP hasn’t read DOE’s mission. It’s more than just “curriculum.”

Oceans and US presidents are part of each state’s curriculum. All these facts mentioned are part of the average curriculum. I don’t know why people don’t know these basic things. Are they a measure of intelligence? Or, evidence of a fine mind? I don’t know. It does appear that we have been going downhill since DOE was established. Correlation? Causation? [/quote]
How about you tell us what you think?[/quote]

I’m the PP and I actually think it’s just social media. People go for easy entertainment and there is no value in memorizing facts. They know they can look up anything in seconds.

I’m negative about DOE because I have a kid with a learning disability and the federally mandated system is a failure. I take every opportunity to bash.[/quote]
Ok. Thank you for your honesty.
If you have some real data that shows that since DoE was established things(test scores, outcomes, etc) have gone down, please share them.

I'm old, but I couldn't imagine not knowing where the Atlantic and Pacific oceans were. I have 3 kids and if they didn't know, I'd think I had failed them.[/quote]

I don’t have data. The premise of this thread is that Americans are dumber than we used to be and we allegedly used to know x, y, and z. Since DOE was established in 1980 and this dumbing down must of happened in people’s memory (or they’re just making crap up), then the timeframe stands.

My kids know the difference between the Atlantic and Pacific, can name the three branches of government, etc. [/quote]

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