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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree PP. the people calling this a conspiracy are simply addicted to alcohol and are afraid of evolving. [/quote]

People believed the truth about cigarettes because it comported with their lived experiences - smoke cigarettes and you DO see how it impacts your health - directly. There are literally no long-term smokers who look good, are active, healthy, disease free.

But wine is different. My aunt drinks a bottle of wine a night, and has for TWENTY years. She’s almost 70. No health problems, no cancer, looks really good for her age. She eats well and exercises every day. Great lifestyle. [/quote]

Your aunt is an alcoholic with a physiological dependency on alcohol. If she were to suddenly stop drinking, she will experience withdrawal, which is no fun at all.

This moment in time does remind me of smoking. Everyone knew smoking was bad for them - just like alcohol - but they did it anyway because it was a social norm. A very high percentage of people smoked from roughly 1940 to 2000. And then suddenly, smoking was deemed trashy and people stopped smoking cigarettes and young people didn't pick it up. I think a similar moment is happening with alcohol. People are increasingly aware that alcohol is a sledgehammer to every organ in their body. It's sugar and empty calories and it takes a long time to recover, particularly as you get older. More and more people are deciding the buzz isn't worth the costs - whether its health or the behavioral issues that sometimes arise with drinking.

But I don't think people are necessarily embracing 100 percent sobriety. It's not a coincidence that the turn away from alcohol is happening just as cannabis is becoming widely available and socially acceptable. Instead of drinks at the end of the day, people are taking a gummy instead. California sober will increasingly become the norm, particularly among the young. Plus bars are really expensive these days. A gummy costs approximately two dollars. Whereas two mixed drinks at a bar can easily run 40 dollars with tip. The trend lines are very clear. Young people can't afford to drink. And older people are increasingly concerned about their health.   [/quote]

No, this is simply an American bugbear. I am in Europe right now and everyone is drinking wine, lunch and dinner, young and old. I sat next to a table of 70 year olds knocking back wine at lunch yesterday. [/quote]

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