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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Which Claremont school is good for pre-med?[/quote] Why pay that kind of money for premed? State flagship is the way to go.[/quote] For us, it was much cheaper than the state school. Anyway, to answer PP's question Pomona has the best pre-med outcomes (number 1 Med School is Columbia, number 2 is Harvard) and the school has first semester P/NP grading for the genetics and intro chem course. A lot more help resources than the other Cs, Scripps/Pitzer classes are apparently very rigorous, so they are also good![/quote] Must have been unusual circumstances. For most people that certainly won't be true. [/quote] It's not unusual for the majority of American families. Pomona has very strong financial aid, and currently are using their money to boost the amount of middle class students at the college. They attract people in the price-comparison stage, [b]because they tend to be cheaper than other colleges. [/b]State colleges aren't even that cheap anymore and are grazing the 30-50k mark, worse for some if housing is an issue.[/quote] False. CMC is $91,550 a year. Google it[/quote] Yes. Financial aid exists. For most American families, Pomona, which is what that commenter was talking about, is cheaper than a state school, especially a flagship.[/quote] not true. Pomona makes decisions based upon the CSS. Most readers here will receive a "you are responsible for 100% of financial aid" determination on either the CSS or FAFSA, as we did = no financial aid and no merit for either child. The cap seems to be around $200k a year HHI. All Slacs and private universities spread the myth that attending at their $88k+ school will be cheaper than in-state but it's rarely true unless the child drops down a tier and offers something extraordinary in exchange for merit. The same privates boast "70% of our students receive financial aid!" but included in that figure are the students like my own who receive zero financial aid via FAFSA or CSS but take out the measly $5500 unsubsidized federal loan. I know this because I served on my slac's board. Run those NPCs, take a screenshot of it so you can argue with the school later, file the FAFSA and CSS early in fall of the senior year so you know your actual results early.[/quote] Before you speak, can [b]you[/b] do the net price calculator? You’re at the 80th percentile minimum of American households and your band of families- those who make more than $150k- are more than half of Pomona’s community: [url]https://magazine.pomona.edu/2024/spring/opening-pomonas-doors-wider-for-middle-income-students/[/url]. I’m not sure how many crocodile tears can be produced for an upper class family complaining that schools that are majority comprised of their income bracket are out of reach.[/quote] No one is shedding crocodile tears. This is not a question of emotions or justice. No one even said Pomona is “out of reach” for families making $150k+. Just economically irrational. As the PP pointed out, for families making $150k (which, as you point out, is most families at Pomona)—the state flagship is in fact cheaper. Schools like Pomona make sense for less affluent families [i]if[/i] they can get in. But most can’t, because grades, scores, ECs, and hooks are highly correlated with HHI. Schools like Pomona also make sense for those so wealthy they won’t notice a stray $200,000 here or there. But for families in between, it’s extremely difficult to rationalize the marginal expense over the cost of a flagship. Which is why those in-between families, who are overrepresented among high stats kids applying to college, are underrepresented at schools like Pomona. Again, that’s not a complaint about injustice. It’s just a fact. Whatever their origins, nowadays flagships exist for high-performing UMC students, while private schools are for the rich and poor. [/quote]
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