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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We got rid of some office space during pandemic, remote employees have changed office location, although most remote employees are remote locally. Basically, some employees change teleworking status (before Covid) to remote status, with SF 50 duty station changed too.

There is no funding to get more office space (flat funding, majority of funding goes to employees' salary; while salary/other costs increase annually, there is not even enough money to fill every vacancy).[/quote]

Why people are so concerned about RTO?  [/quote]

+1. The panic is downright bizarre. To me it gives credit to the argument that people are working less at home. Doing laundry, prepping dinner, picking up kids from school and not paying for aftercare. Otherwise they wouldn’t be in panic mode at the thought of going back. [/quote]

For the millionth time - wanting to be at home at 5:00, instead of an hour away at 5:00, is not nefarious. It's how people make their lives work. Starting your day 30 minutes early so that you can take a 30 minute break later, to drive your kid between school and aftercare because there's no bus, is not nefarious it is literally people using aftercare and accounting for their time. I could give a dozen different examples.

The naysayers are chanting "I didn't have to do that pre-covid" but the fact is, a lot of people DID need to do these things pre-covid and the solution at the time was to be unemployed or underemployed in order to make the household work. So yes, RTO will be a serious income drop / career killer for people who are good at their jobs. [/quote]

This, but the problem is a lot of jobs aren't 9-5, and often you have to take calls early in the AM and throughout the night.  So, how is this all going ot work?  The expectation is you still keep that schedule.  My spouse's supervisor lives across the country, and co-workers live around the world as do the customes they interact with.  The West Coast folks expect calls from 5-8 at night as they are just ramping up after lunch when East Coast are getting ready to leave.  If you are a gov't employee, 9-5 may be easier but that's not the reality anymore.  [/quote]

The government doesn't pay enough to work 24/7, even on remote. It's also illegal for feds to work uncompensated hours[/quote]

Lots of us have international calls at odd times, compensated or not, and lots of us work with people in distant US time zones like Hawaii. It's been decades since you had to do those from the office, because a phone call can be made anywhere (barring sensitive/classified info). [/quote]

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