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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]These posts are evergreens on a forum like this. It's wishful thinking, and frankly straight-up naive, to assume that going to a more prestigious grad school completely minimizes the undergrad experience. When you are at your separate college reunions, believe me, you are not "all the same". A prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.[/quote]

this made me laugh....but if it makes you feel better to believe this - dream on[/quote]

Me too. To claim wishful thinking and then write something like “a prestigious undergrad is cachet that lasts a lifetime.”  :D Hit the library, undergrad, you’ve got a degree to finish.[/quote]

Ha. I graduated from college 30 years ago. I speak from experience. If it makes you feel better to pretend that this is not how the world works, dream on...[/quote]

NP here. Could you explain some of benefits conferred by the Ivy undergrad degree?

We're trying to make decisions for our oldest now and not sure how to evaluate the ROI (we're UMC but not DCUM rich and we have 3 kids). I've met and worked with lots of Ivy grads earning the same or less than I did coming from much lower tier schools. Then there are Ivy grads with really high HHI's.

Kid#1 wants to be a lawyer. I get that the prestige of the law school matters. But does the undergrad matter too?

Thanks in advance for any insight as we grapple with college decisions.[/quote]

Search the forum it has been answered already. There is a small undergrad preference by top law schools, most obvious is that most favor their own. Even without that boost, the ivy/elite experience that one can get at 15-16 schools in this country is irreplaceable. The peers, the smaller classes, the involved professors, the huge endowment that allows a lot of valuable undergrad experiences to be fully funded….
It is best to go to a top undergrad and a top law school. [/quote]

The problem with this is that apart from the small undergrad preference for a handful of law schools, the rest of these things can be found anywhere in the top 40 or so, and even some schools further down depending on program. These schools are swimming in money, they offer incredible opportunities, and apart from some intro classes the class sizes are all normal. Top students are ending up at all of them because Ivies have not expanded at the same pace as the student population. Same thing has happened with PhDs produced by Ivies versus the number of professorships available. It’s not the 1980s anymore.[/quote]

And none of these things are ultimately that relevant for OPs original question.[/quote]

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