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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up Catholic but now I"m agnostic.  My brother is still Catholic and raised his kids Catholic, so wound up teaching his gay son that being gay is a sin.

No thanks.[/quote]

The assertion that “being gay is a sin” is not part of Catholic teaching. Orientation is morally neutral. [/quote]

Well it’s taught widely in the church and I think you are being purposely obtuse. My kid’s CDC teacher gave her nightmares telling her gays are going to hell.[/quote]

Just to be clear.

I agree CCD teachers often suck
I agree some say gays are going to hell
Being gay is not a sin.
Acts of sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Catholics won't let gay people marry so all their acts are a sin. 
They say "being gay" is "intrinsically disordered" and that is in the catechism not the Bible so it's not divine word

I agree it is horrible but I just wanted to clarify the teaching. [/quote]

the whole point of the Catholic Church is that there is religious authority you accept outside of the bible, and certainly not just “listening to the holy spirit.” If you want a religion guided by how you feel and your personal relationship to Jesus and the bible … look elsewhere! [/quote]

Sure, every religion has it's issues.

Other Christian religions believe you only have to accept Jesus as your savior to be saved, you can be a SOB and sin all day long but as long as Jesus is your savior, have at it.

Catholics at least believe you have to live like Jesus to be saved. [/quote]

This isn’t true. No good works get you to heaven, just accepting God.[/quote]

Catholics have a whole list of sins they cannot get to heaven if they commit - missing mass, murder, theft, dishonesty, etc, etc.  Of course if they go to confession and confess their sins to a priest, then their souls are washed clean and they can go to holy communion and receive the Sacrament.  And go the heaven, if they die.  But assuming they live and sin again, they must go to confession and communion again, or else they will go to hell, if they committed a mortal sin, like missing mass or murder.[/quote]

Exactly. I really wonder who the people are who believe Catholicism is about reading your bible and “accepting Jesus Christ into your heart as your personal savior.” That literally describes evangelism, not Catholicism! [/quote]

They are people who believe those things themselves and think all good Christians should believe them too.[/quote]

ok well, that doesn’t change the fact that the Catholic Church has its own specific theology that is different from other Christian denominations. [/quote]

+1. and man made theology. There are no "rules" like those that trips people in Catholicism in the bible. The nastiest people I've known ( rigid, judgmental, gossipy, self-oriented) are catholuc abd, in my mind, not Christian[/quote]

I was going to say something snarky like “Catholics are the original Christians”. But your comment actually neatly illustrates the difference between Catholics and Protestants. Unless a Catholic is excommunicated (a really rare thing that only the Church hierarchy can do through a canon law process) you’s never say a baptised Catholic “isn’t Catholic.” Because it is something you are (via sacraments) not something you do. Heck, I was baptized and haven’t been to church for 20 years and I am still  100% Catholic per the Church. Badly sinning but still Catholic! Protestants on the other hand may say things like “She’s not a Christian” because they believe she’s not *performing* Christianity correctly. Faith v works. [/quote]

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